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    Posted: 18 May 2010 at 1:21pm
Seriously, I'm not kidding. I'm going to take some m-fers down if it's the last thing I do.

Two doors down from my restaurant, which is an Irish Gastro-pub by definition, there's an old book store which has been sitting vacant for over 2 years. We knew that a local chef wanted to put a Gastro-pub in there, which I'm fine with, but what we didn't know is that he's putting in an Irish Gastro-pub in, and has apparently performed enough fellatio on city council members to get a variance to allow him to put up a rooftop deck (which is deemed illegal here in old-town Alexandria due to the historic significance of the architecture) and to put a permanent awning over public property to provide additional outdoor seating (also illegal due to architectural planning laws). We tried to get both of those for our restaurant 4 years ago when we opened, but we denied. This SOB comes in and has the PR department and apparently the ability to suck a golf-ball through a garden hose and gets them to "forget" about the laws for him.

I'm taking him down. Plain and simple. I'll out price him, out cook him, and make him regret the day he decided to open this close to us.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote procarbinefreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2010 at 1:22pm
lulz

For the price of a plane ticket and a free meal at your place, I could steal some cultures from the microbiology department and 'spike' some food over there...



probably should find a way to hurt him and not the customers though...


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Same thing happened with me this past year. Someone started that blog to try and compete with us for news coverage of the UCF area and started acting like the TMZ of the campus, posting rumors and being super sensational.

We finally beat them down at the end. Reduced them to just covering Greek life and posting press releases. Nobody would talk to them.

Anyway, long story short, I'll just get a freelancing gig at the Alexandria Times and say I saw a waiter rub their gootch on the salads while writing a review.

Problem solved.

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ahem,
 
 
Free Enterprise...
 
Business has way too many regulations put on them by 'well meaning' boards. Why don't you quit whining and go get a variance and build one too? Precidence has now been set... And today governments are actually concerned with KEEPING any business they can get...
 
I would think you would like a little less government intrusion on what you do to YOUR property... But, what would I know...
 
go get em tiger. Maybe you can get them to ban customers in the future too... Cause them having customers certainly wouldn't be fair.
 
 
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

ahem,
 


Methinks you didn't read his last sentence, Captain Capitalism.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

ahem,
 


Methinks you didn't read his last sentence, Captain Capitalism.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

ahem,
 

 

Free Enterprise...

 

Business has way too many regulations put on them by 'well meaning' boards. Why don't you quit whining and go get a variance and build one too? Precidence has now been set... And today governments are actually concerned with KEEPING any business they can get...

 

I would think you would like a little less government intrusion on what you do to YOUR property... But, what would I know...

 

go get em tiger. Maybe you can get them to ban customers in the future too... Cause them having customers certainly wouldn't be fair.

 

 


FE, buddy, I know you're from Ohio, so that means you can't drive for crap, but I thought your reading comprehension would be better!

My argument against this guy involving any kind of regulation is that the council voted to allow him to put a rooftop deck on a historically significant building along with their decision to allow a permanent fixture on public property, both of which required a variance from them. We've repeatedly attempted to get the same variance, but we don't have the PR machine that this guy does. To put it simply, he's a "rockstar" chef. He's not really that good, but he's got a fantastic PR machine that makes him look like he craps Foie Gras and pisses La Grande Dame.

That said, the architectural board must now approve these fixtures. They've got a history of dicking people around Apparently the shops located opposite from this new restaurant on Wales Alley are fighting the awning decision tooth and nail, and the guy who owns the buildings across the street has now declared that he's going to fight the rooftop deck. As I stated, I'm all for another restaurant rather than a vacant property, but step into my territory and try to copy me? I'm gonna mess you up. I got to where I am by being a hard-nosed SOB in the business world, and I'm ruthless when it comes to protecting my income. I don't stab people in the back when it comes to competition, I knife them in the face, just ask the prior exec of my restaurant.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NiQ-Toto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2010 at 2:52pm
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

   I don't stab people in the back when it comes to competition, I knife them in the face.
Best line ive seen tallen write ever.
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Really, just massively weaken the structural integrity of his building.
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1) Baseball bat.
2) Kneecaps.
3). ????
4) Profit.

Only thing is you can't get caught, 'cause then steps 3 and 4 go way differently.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Really, just massively weaken the structural integrity of his building.

A few termites goes a long way.  Unless it's a brick building.
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Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

. . . go get a variance and build one too? Precidence has now been set... 
This part is actually pretty good advice.  It would be interesting to see how they could deny you one after approving one for the copy-shop two doors down.  If denial still occurs for some other reason (like not having two many awnings on one block) then you get to break out the paperwork from the previous applications and play the "I asked first, why did he get approved instead" game.  If you have bored local news reporters and provide them with documentation this can be quite entertaining for everyone involved except for the newcomer to the restaurant business and his friends on the council.

Plus, putting up your own deck/awning lets you copy him back just to piss him off.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

. . . go get a variance and build one too? Precidence has now been set... 
This part is actually pretty good advice.  It would be interesting to see how they could deny you one after approving one for the copy-shop two doors down.  If denial still occurs for some other reason (like not having two many awnings on one block) then you get to break out the paperwork from the previous applications and play the "I asked first, why did he get approved instead" game.  If you have bored local news reporters and provide them with documentation this can be quite entertaining for everyone involved except for the newcomer to the restaurant business and his friends on the council.

Plus, putting up your own deck/awning lets you copy him back just to piss him off.


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I still really want to go to Tallen's restaurant/pub.

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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:


Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

. . . go get a variance and build one too? Precidence has now been set... 
This part is actually pretty good advice.  It would be interesting to see how they could deny you one after approving one for the copy-shop two doors down.  If denial still occurs for some other reason (like not having two many awnings on one block) then you get to break out the paperwork from the previous applications and play the "I asked first, why did he get approved instead" game.  If you have bored local news reporters and provide them with documentation this can be quite entertaining for everyone involved except for the newcomer to the restaurant business and his friends on the council.Plus, putting up your own deck/awning lets you copy him back just to piss him off.


Read the link I posted in my rebuttal to FE. Then you'll understand the variance game in this town.

Originally posted by WaPo WaPo wrote:

But when the project came before the review board in 2007, it was rejected partly on Smith's recommendation that it would cause an "unreasonable loss of historic fabric." Zarlenga said Smith did not explain to him why he changed his mind. Smith has since died.

Tom Hulfish, chairman of the Alexandria Board of Architectural Review, said the project was rejected because it would have altered the traditional "flounder," or shed roof structure that preservationists are trying to protect around the city.

Zarlenga said he felt as though the rug had been pulled out from under him. He appealed to the City Council but lost in September 2007. Council members suggested he go back to the staff of the architectural review board and submit new plans.

For Zarlenga, it was the final straw. He choked back tears as he told the council he was finished: "I have no faith in the staff. . . . They have completely taken the integrity, as I see it, out of the system. . . . The simple fact is there's no money left, okay?"


The building which they are expecting to put a rooftop deck on? Yeah, it's got a flounder roof.

Edited by tallen702 - 18 May 2010 at 5:03pm
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Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

I still really want to go to Tallen's restaurant/pub.
Que pasa?


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Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

I still really want to go to Tallen's restaurant/pub.


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Let's do it Jmac.


Reb, drive down from New York.  You and Jmac can slap fight while me and tallen get drunk and swap war stories of time in the Irish battlefields.
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