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    Posted: 04 August 2010 at 5:35pm
Judge makes ruling in constitutionality of California's Proposition 8. 

I'm sure this will end with God's judgement and anger flashing down upon the Earth in a rage from heaven. 

Or, I mean, gay people will just go back to being able to have marriage rights. 

The horror of it all. 
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Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?!
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You know, people say that homosexuality occurs in nature, but you know what else occurs in nature? Sex between animals. This ruling will obviously lead to benefits for those who engage in bestiality.

Then it's only a matter of time, logically speaking, before they start going after children.
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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

You know, people say that homosexuality occurs in nature, but you know what else occurs in nature? Sex between animals. This ruling will obviously lead to benefits for those who engage in bestiality. Then it's only a matter of time, logically speaking, before they start going after children.


I can just imagine a voter rally, with chris hanson showing up. "Folks, I need you all to please have a seat over here"
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Originally posted by Destruction Destruction wrote:

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?!


Uh, maybe I didn't do too well in Biology at school, but what children? That would be quite a feat wouldn't it?

Bad joke on a forum meme I know, but the anesthetic is still in my blood and I found it funny.   
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

You know, people say that homosexuality occurs in nature, but you know what else occurs in nature? Sex between animals. This ruling will obviously lead to benefits for those who engage in bestiality. Then it's only a matter of time, logically speaking, before they start going after children.


I can just imagine a voter rally, with chris hanson showing up. "Folks, I need you all to please have a seat over here"
 
First thing that popped into my head when I read that.
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Originally posted by Destruction Destruction wrote:

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?!


Uh, maybe I didn't do too well in Biology at school, but what children? That would be quite a feat wouldn't it?

Bad joke on a forum meme I know, but the anesthetic is still in my blood and I found it funny.   


Simpson's reference.



Coincidentally, that pic came from a site against Prop 8.

Edited by Destruction - 04 August 2010 at 10:43pm
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hey gays can get married in california...ok moving along now
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

You know, people say that homosexuality occurs in nature, but you know what else occurs in nature? Sex between animals. This ruling will obviously lead to benefits for those who engage in bestiality. Then it's only a matter of time, logically speaking, before they start going after children.


I can just imagine a voter rally, with chris hanson showing up. "Folks, I need you all to please have a seat over here"
 
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Or, I mean, gay people will just go back to being able to have marriage rights. 


Can anyone point me to any US law, and not a court based decision, that states marriage is a right?





Just playing devils advocate here...

Edited by Linus - 05 August 2010 at 4:49am

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Or, I mean, gay people will just go back to being able to have marriage rights. 


Can anyone point me to any US law, and not a court based decision, that states marriage is a right?





Just playing devils advocate here...
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sarcasm on.
 
 
Boy, I sure am glad another judge disregarded the will, AND vote of the people... It is refreshing that we are no longer a republic but an oligarchy ruled by an ideological elite.
 
Tolerance is a one way street, as you now have to have the same liberal world view espoused in most colleges, while never admitting to the tenants of Christianity...
 
Way to go California, the voters agreed with the majority of Americans. But, the liberal elites... They know better.
 
More examples.
 
The student who was told she would be kicked out of college for her doctorate unless she denounced her Christian world view.
 
The professor who stated the Catholic position on homosexuality and promptly was fired... In his class ON Catholicism.
 
And Churches being shut down by cities because they don't bring in any revenue in taxes...
 
 
 
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I love the automatic attachment of "liberal" to the judge's decision. I'd rather attach the word "correct" or "responsible." I could have cared less if the judge was liberal or conservative, sometimes voters are just wrong. That's why we have the courts. Especially when a majority of voters aren't effected by the law. When a large number of people voted "no" for religious reasons, I'm glad we have the courts system to correct the decision and actually base it on equality, which is what our country is supposed to be truly based on.
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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I love the automatic attachment of "liberal" to the judge's decision. I'd rather attach the word "correct" or "responsible." I could have cared less if the judge was liberal or conservative, sometimes voters are just wrong. That's why we have the courts. Especially when a majority of voters aren't effected by the law. When a large number of people voted "no" for religious reasons, I'm glad we have the courts system to correct the decision and actually base it on equality, which is what our country is supposed to be truly based on.
Amen.

Yes, Prop 8 passed by voter referendum, but, if the people voted for something that is ultimately unconstitutional, how could such a law be upheld?

Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but to me, the whole thing is the equivalent of the people of CA passing something banning the ownership of all firearms in the state. Sure, it passed (hypothetically), but is it constitutional? Supreme Court and 2nd Ammendment says no.

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Again my problem with any of this Judicial override trend is again, the Bill was written by Lawyers, reviewed by Lawyers, Constitutionally Tested by Lawyers, voted on by the electorate, the desired response was not achieved, and one man now operturns it as unconstitutional.
The 'Will of the People' voting on a measure that on its face as written and reviewed by Lawyers met Constitutional Standards is overturned by the interpatation of Constitutionality of one man due to political need. Gays always had the right to marry, within the confines of the law as we all do, so there is and was no violation of thier Civil Rights.
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

Again my problem with any of this Judicial override trend is again, the Bill was written by Lawyers, reviewed by Lawyers, Constitutionally Tested by Lawyers, voted on by the electorate, the desired response was not achieved, and one man now operturns it as unconstitutional.


Exactly . . . this is the judicial branch of our government interpreting the law (in this case the constitution) exactly as it was designed to do.


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Only liberal judges believe the constitution is a "living breathing" document...

 
Which it would have to be, in order to take a law on the books (sodomy) and ignore  it to while claiming "civil rights violations"...
 
 
The public has spoken LOUD and clear every time this comes up... And yet, this judge knows better.
 
We can all bet how kagan and the wise latina will vote when it hits the supreme court.
 
because... They are liberal.
 
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SO how did it make it through committee prior to the ballot if 'lawyers' and more than likely a few judges reviwed it. Makes it to ballot, fails and then one man can change the outcome. A full Judicial review (multiple Judges)maybe, but just one man having the ability to overturn the 'Will of the People' is not how the system was actually designed to work.
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