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Congrats, Illinois!

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    Posted: 09 March 2011 at 2:00pm
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Now to go on a killing spree over the border.
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Illinois-bordering-forumers-killing-spree-meetup? 
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Who is bringing the skinhats? 
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Who is bringing the skinhats? 

MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!
Innocence proves nothing
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I'd make one there, but pink isn't my color.  
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It's only a matter of time before pedophilia is legal now. 
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To bad the Illinois Governor can not ban the potential 'death penalty' on the Law abiding citizen by the criminal element. The criminal can now no longer fear the 'death penalty' for his actions, but the citizen still fears the 'death penalty' at the hands of the criminal in the commission of the crime. Outstanding.

I understand the the 'death penalty' is contriversial in the deterrant aspect, but it still gives a moments pause in the minds of the criminal if the potential is still there, a simple 'chance' that the criminal does not execute the totally innocent 'victim' in the commision of his crime, where the 'victim' is not offered a trial by jury, just the intentions of one individual who commets the execution.
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So is killing wrong or not, OS?
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Originally posted by oldsoldier oldsoldier wrote:

To bad the Illinois Governor can not ban the potential 'death penalty' on the Law abiding citizen by the criminal element.
 

They did ban it. It's the law not to kill people. People do disregard this law, however. That action is illegal. 

Quote The criminal can now no longer fear the 'death penalty' for his actions,
 

The death penalty has never significantly been shown as a deterrent to crime, nor as the lack of a death penalty been shown as a bolster. 

Quote but the citizen still fears the 'death penalty' at the hands of the criminal in the commission of the crime.

Irrelevant to the discussion. 

Quote I understand the the 'death penalty' is contriversial in the deterrant aspect,
 

By controversial, you mean never actually ever proven as a deterrent. 

Quote but it still gives a moments pause in the minds of the criminal

Citation needed. 


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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

 

The death penalty has never significantly been shown as a deterrent to crime, nor as the lack of a death penalty been shown as a bolster. 
 

The death penalty being a deterrent is about as controversial as the existence of Santa Clause.  


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Quote I understand the the 'death penalty' is contriversial in the deterrant aspect,
 

By controversial, you mean never actually ever proven as a deterrent. 

Quote but it still gives a moments pause in the minds of the criminal

Citation needed. 


Edited by GroupB - 10 March 2011 at 12:43pm
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I think all states should resurrect the Brazen Bull.


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Hey, OS, you know what still does have the death penalty?  Sharia law.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote agentwhale007 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 March 2011 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I think all states should resurrect the Brazen Bull.




Is it bad that when we learned about the Brazen Bull in school my first thought was "Man, I bet that is a pain to clean out?" 
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The death penalty has never significantly been shown as a deterrent to crime, nor as the lack of a death penalty been shown as a bolster. 
Funny, the push of life in prison as opposed to death has never shown a decrease in the same crimes, either.

If someone wants to kill someone, they will, regardless of perceived punishment.




Question: Since DNA has become a pretty much mandatory condition of conviction for death cases in recent years... has there been a SINGLE wrongful conviction when DNA was used? If so, how did it get shown as wrongful?



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And lest we forget, most criminals that commit crimes believe they will get away with it, with perhaps, the 'crime of passion' exception.
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