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    Posted: 12 August 2011 at 5:46pm
Hi all,

43 year old athletic guy playing woodsball/paintball at a local field first time on Sunday. Since I have never played before and would like some feedback on what to expect.

Guys that I work with play paintball and they tell me me I will like it a lot. I wanted to play once before I started playing with them. I did some research and it does seem like a good time.

Do places have many guys that show up alone or will I feel like an odd man out? The place has walk on's allowed over the weekend.

I have a camouflage outfit and Timberland's that I will play in.  I do not have gloves or any other apparel. Anything else that you guys can recommend? I have field utilities that are semi heavy weight.

Some of the guys recommend bug spray others don't, same with wearing a vest. One of my buddies had a nasty bruise from getting hit on the neck. It looked like a hickey.

I do not have my own marker, however if I enjoy playing I plan on buying a Tippmann Project Salvo with an E trigger. I wear glasses, so I want to buy a mask with a fan or one that doesn't fog up.

They play capture the flag type scenarios.
I live in Ocean county NJ if anyone wants to get together or recommend places to play.

I look forward to any feedback.


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Originally posted by Mike Gallo Mike Gallo wrote:


Do places have many guys that show up alone or will I feel like an odd man out? The place has walk on's allowed over the weekend.
 
A good number of people show up alone or with another person. Unless you get stuck with a bunch of jerks/bratty kids you will be fine.

I have a camouflage outfit and Timberland's that I will play in.  I do not have gloves or any other apparel. Anything else that you guys can recommend? I have field utilities that are semi heavy weight.
 
That is a fine outfit. I regularly wear BDU's, combat boots, a doo rag on my head, and simetimes gloves. Depending on what marker I use I often wear a vest just to pack extra pods and my tank on my back. For a rental you're fine. Gloves and headgear is an option, and I dont reccomend a vest. It only hurts if you get shot in the fingers, head, neck, or gonads.

I do not have my own marker, however if I enjoy playing I plan on buying a Tippmann Project Salvo with an E trigger. I wear glasses, so I want to buy a mask with a fan or one that doesn't fog up.
I cant help you with mask advice, I dont have glasses.

They play capture the flag type scenarios.
I live in Ocean county NJ if anyone wants to get together or recommend places to play.
 
I live in Morris County myself, but I haven't played in years. You will not find anyone to paintball with here.

I look forward to any feedback.


 


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Thanks a lot for the information. 
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Going with friends is typically a lot more fun than going alone, but either way you should have a good time. I didnt start playing until a few years ago and I am the same age  as you. Regarding masks, you may want to go to an actual shop and try some on if you wear glasses. Some fit well with them, others do not, it's best to go try them on to see. SSOK's pretty right on with his comments. Only disagreement I have is about it hurting. It will sting, and in some cases cause bruising, and not on just the areas he mentioned. I have a pretty bruised up arm right now and 5-6 welts still on my chest from playing this past weekend. It's not unbearable, but it does hurt sometimes.
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I have played four times since posting this.

I really got good value in purchasing my project Salvo.

I like the gun a lot. It fires well and has a great feel to it. I upgrade to the Tippmann 98 Custom Flatline barrel.

You are correct about bruises. My left arm has three bruises my beg has a few as does my chest and abdomen.

All in all I enjoy the experience a lot.

Next Sunday I plan on playing at a field I have not yet played at.

I plan on purchasing a vest and a pod holder in the not too distant future.

As far as my mask goes, I wear contacts when I play until I can get sports glasses. I cannot play with my current glasses.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.


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Contacts are waaaaay better than dealing with glasses in a mask, they're simply more comfortable and you don't have to worry about fogging. If I have to give my eyes a rest from my contacts, I don't play, I just can't stand glasses in a mask.

That said, glad you had a good time! Pods become necessary pretty quickly unless you start playing stock class or open-class pump. When I first started out as a poor college student, I could make 500 rounds last me two days. But I soon found that when I started playing with larger groups of people, I needed more paint. I went overboard and picked up an 8 pod suspender harness that held 150's. It was way more than I actually needed and the hits on pods really got annoying after a while. That's why I eventually switched to a 5 pod drop-down pack which sits in the small of your back. It's handy, stays out of the way, and keeps a low profile. And unless you're planning on doing a lot of lying down on your back on the field, it's pretty darn comfortable too.

Anyway, glad you've been enjoying the experience! I haven't been out in a while, but the itch to play is quickly working its way back in now that I know I've got free time coming up.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Contacts are waaaaay better than dealing with glasses in a mask, they're simply more comfortable and you don't have to worry about fogging. If I have to give my eyes a rest from my contacts, I don't play, I just can't stand glasses in a mask.


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...yea contact work way better than glasses.

Another question if you guys dont mind....

Does an upgrade to the barrel make a huge difference?
What about the type of paint.
I play at a field that allows players with their own gear to bring their own paint. Any suggestions?
I purchased paint from Sports Authority for a good price, however every third shot went astray.

Thanks for all the good information guys!!
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Aftermarket barrels make a big difference in accuracy over the stock barrel on almost any marker. What makes and even bigger difference than the finish of the interior of the barrel however, is paint-to-bore matching. The more exact fit, the more accurate the shot. That's why the most expensive barrels out there are kits that either have different sized backs, or sleeves the fit inside the barrel giving you the ability to match the paintball size to the bore of the barrel. Paint quality also matters. The el-cheapo sports authority or walmart paint usually sits for a while without being properly rotated, so the paintballs will form dimples, flat spots, or go out-of-round in general which messes with the flight dynamics. I tend to go for stuff from actual paintball pro-shops. It can usually be had for ~$40/2000 rounds which breaks down to $10/500 which isn't much more expensive than what you find at wal-mart etc.

For aftermarket barrels, on the basic end of things (single bore size) I like the J&J 14" Ceramic barrel. The ceramic lining reduces friction and allows you to "shoot your barrel clean" meaning that if you have a ball break in the barrel, the next 3-4 shots may go spinning off, but after that, you'll have cleared most, if not all, of the paint out of the barrel which will bring you back to 95% accuracy without having to use a squeegee or barrel mop. The most popular interchangeable insert system is the "Freak Kit" from Smart Parts. It's vastly more expensive, but you can usually find used ones in decent condition for a lot less than new.
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Thanks for the response, I plan on getting a new barrel next, then a response trigger,
I still think I will start with the Tippmann 98 Custom Flatline barrel.

Hurricane Irene washed out this weekend, but I plan on logging some hours this Labor day weekend.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Aftermarket barrels make a big difference in accuracy over the stock barrel on almost any marker. What makes and even bigger difference than the finish of the interior of the barrel however, is paint-to-bore matching. The more exact fit, the more accurate the shot. That's why the most expensive barrels out there are kits that either have different sized backs, or sleeves the fit inside the barrel giving you the ability to match the paintball size to the bore of the barrel. Paint quality also matters. The el-cheapo sports authority or walmart paint usually sits for a while without being properly rotated, so the paintballs will form dimples, flat spots, or go out-of-round in general which messes with the flight dynamics. I tend to go for stuff from actual paintball pro-shops. It can usually be had for ~$40/2000 rounds which breaks down to $10/500 which isn't much more expensive than what you find at wal-mart etc.

For aftermarket barrels, on the basic end of things (single bore size) I like the J&J 14" Ceramic barrel. The ceramic lining reduces friction and allows you to "shoot your barrel clean" meaning that if you have a ball break in the barrel, the next 3-4 shots may go spinning off, but after that, you'll have cleared most, if not all, of the paint out of the barrel which will bring you back to 95% accuracy without having to use a squeegee or barrel mop. The most popular interchangeable insert system is the "Freak Kit" from Smart Parts. It's vastly more expensive, but you can usually find used ones in decent condition for a lot less than new.


After I did some research on the J & J 14" ceramic barrel I probably will  get this barrel before I get  the Tippmann Flatline.

Thanks for the heads  up.


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You might take a look at the Lapco Barrels too.  I've been playing for about 14 years and the Lapco BigShot paintball barrels are hard to beat.  They can be a bit louder than some others like the J&J ceramic paintball barrels but the quality and consistency of the Lapco's are top notch.  I don't have any charts or graphs to show you, just an opinion of a long time player.
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Originally posted by Galen Adams Galen Adams wrote:

You might take a look at the Lapco Barrels too.  I've been playing for about 14 years and the Lapco BigShot paintball barrels are hard to beat.  They can be a bit louder than some others like the J&J ceramic paintball barrels but the quality and consistency of the Lapco's are top notch.  I don't have any charts or graphs to show you, just an opinion of a long time player.



I suggested the J&J over LAPCO for both price, and due to the fact that paint has been shrinking over the years. The bigshot was fantastic with older ZAP! and RPS paint, but ever since procaps empire, and JT took over the manufacturing of paintballs, the caliber has shrunk significantly meaning that the fit isn't as good with a standard bigshot as it is with a "tighter" J&J Ceramic. Now, if LAPCO still made the autospirit.....
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Hey guys thanks for the information.
Yesterday I picked up a used J & J ceramic 14" barrel at a local store for a pretty decent price.

I used it for the first time tonight.
I went through about 200 balls at the target range, and then I played a few games of paintball.
The gun fires very nice, and pretty accurate. compared to the stock barrel.

The next thing I want to get is a cyclone air feeder hopper.
After that I want to get the response trigger.



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Originally posted by Galen Adams Galen Adams wrote:

You might take a look at the Lapco Barrels too.  I've been playing for about 14 years and the Lapco BigShot paintball barrels are hard to beat.  They can be a bit louder than some others like the J&J ceramic paintball barrels but the quality and consistency of the Lapco's are top notch.  I don't have any charts or graphs to show you, just an opinion of a long time player.


I looked these up, however they are out of my price range right now.

As I progress I certainly will consider one of these barrels, they look bad-ass.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Yep, the J&J's are a bit cheaper and especially if you were able to get a good used one.  Congrats.  You'll have a lot more fun when the paint goes where it's supposed to.  That's something we say at the store when people are looking at which paint to buy.  You can save a few bucks per case by getting cheaper paint.  Or you can shoot a few less balls with a better paint that goes where its supposed to. A good barrel's the first upgrade we recommend so have fun!
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Shop at a store that has its own field. You can always ask to test out the barrel for a session. 

I personally like my CP barrel on my A5.
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Originally posted by You can always ask to test out the barrel for a session. <div>[/QUOTE You can always ask to test out the barrel for a session. 
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Great idea.  Your shop lets you do that?  At our stores (and

Great idea.  Your shop lets you do that?  At our stores (and every other one I've heard of) the barrels are a non-returnable, non-testable item because once they're "tested" they're used.  I'm just curious.  If you were at a shop/field and were able to test several barrels and then pick the one you wanted would you mind buying one that had been shot/tested before by other players for the "new" price or would you want it cheaper?  We're always looking for new ideas for our stores.
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To be honest, I have never run into a store that lets you test items either. Heck I can't even get the store that Ifrequient to let me air up a marker and fire it , let alone run paint through it.
 
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Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Shop at a store that has its own field. You can always ask to test out the barrel for a session. 

I personally like my CP barrel on my A5.

I like the CP on my 98.  On one of my A5's I have  the Proto 14" and a Smart parts 12". Both are great.
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