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    Posted: 08 September 2011 at 5:09pm
Had the annual physical couple of weeks ago and had lab draw.  Got the results back on the bloodwork and they weren't stellar.  Didn't get the exact numbers but I was told they weren't really bad, but there was room for improvement.  My HDL was especially low and they attributed that to my less-than-perfect diet and basically no exercise regimen.

So, between that and my wife getting after me about exercising I decided to slink to the basement and use the weight bench that has been sitting idle since last December (when we purchased it).  Everything felt heavy.  I mean everything.  Even loading the bar discouraged me.  But that was my mind messing with me I decided and I chose to ignore it.

Started out with two sets of 10 reps at 135lbs.  There is no way I should have been borderline hyperventilating after that, but I was.

Next, I added two 25lb plates to bring me up to 185lbs.  Did two sets of 6 reps.  Mind started kicking in again about how stupid this was and it wasn't going to help anything.

Added two 10lb plates.  Now up to 205lbs.  Did a set of five.  Mind was strangely quiet at this point.

Took the 25s and 10s off.  Added the 35s and the 10s.  Now up to 225lbs.  Again, mind was strangely quiet.  Couldn't help but think it was around the corner ready to pounce.  

Added four 5lb plates.  Up to 245lbs.  Getting ready to lift off when the mind made its presence known again.  Something about no spotter and you're stupid.  Meh.  Ignored it.  Did two reps.

Took the four 5s off, added the two 25s.  Up to 275lbs.  Mind was jumping up and down and waving its arms frantically in the air.  It was at this point the wife came downstairs and decided to "spot me".  Yeah, right.  Like she was going to pull that off my throat if something went horribly wrong.  Mind was in definite agreement.  Did one rep.  Wasn't a clean lift but I racked it alone.

That was it for benching.  Finished up with four sets of skull-crushers @ 75lbs.

Mixed emotions about the session.  The entire time I was feeling pathetically weak.  Tie-ins felt shot and shaky which can only be attributed to the 2 year lay off.  But it was the fact that I could still push as much as I did after all that time.  Nowhere near what I could do 6 years ago when I was powerlifting at my buddy's gym, but I'll have to deal with it.  Next challenge is to start lifting regularly again.  So, Saturday it will be back and biceps.  Have to make it happen...



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Working out is easily the most therapeutic thing that I do for myself. I thoroughly enjoy it and I feel like a slob if I don't exercise somehow throughout the week.

If you're looking for a new strength-training regiment, one of the guys on PBN has his own method that he shared with the community, and it works wonders. I can dig it up for you if you want to give it a look.
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Ok.  It sounds like you are over doing it big time right off of the bat.  I'm not sure how old you are but stretching and light weight for starters would be a really good idea.

I'm 43 now and am in better shape than I was in college by riding bike and doing light weight isometrics.  

Don't hurt yourself bro.

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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

Ok.  It sounds like you are over doing it big time right off of the bat.  I'm not sure how old you are but stretching and light weight for starters would be a really good idea.

I agree that he is starting with way too much weight.

The past few months I've been running a ton and have lost around 25lbs. A month ago I finally joined a gym because I wanted to start lifting. I was doing normal circuit training until last week when I started to do the strong lifts program. So far so good. Zombie Patrick has been doing the same program for a bit over a month now and has seen decent results and I know dave has been doing starting strength which is a similar program.
Http://stronglifts.com

I also just purchased a road bike which I'll ride on days I'm not lifting and jogging. I love the mental health clarity I get after working out.

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  mbro what kind of bike did you get?  I have difficulty with road bike posture so i do urban assault with a mountain bike.  thinking about cranking out a short video of some centerline slaloming and stuff  

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I have to agree that I probably did too much too quick but it was good to know where my limit was.  I come from a powerlifting background, so a bench workout like this is rather typical.  I'm a long way from where I was at my peak several years ago.  Back then, 275lbs was still warming up.  Really wasn't anything to do 365lbs for 3 reps.  Since I've moved away from my lifting partners I will have to settle for volume.  I'll probaby max at 225lbs for awhile.  What I'm going to work my way to is 6 sets of 185lbs for 6-8 reps then finish up with either skull-crushers or JM presses.  Back and biceps will be challenging since I have meager equipment to work with.  I'll figure something out.  Not a big cardio guy, but I do have a bike and and old stair stepper machine that came with the house.  Wish the previous owners left the treadmill...
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A big part of your lipid panel is your diet as well.  Making better choices about what to eat and what not to eat ( notice I didn't say 'go on a diet')  is going to influence your lab results... which is most of what the doc will take into consideration compared to your bmi.  


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Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

  I decided to slink to the basement and use the weight bench that has been sitting idle since last December (when we purchased it). 


I like that you went for the most manliest of ways to get into shape - lifting heavy stuff - as opposed to me, who has started a twice-weekly elliptical routine as part of my being-healthier campaign. 

The elliptical is the least-manly form of exercise possible. It's impossible to look cool, or manly, or badass while on an elliptical machine. 

Seriously. Go to Google Images and look for "elliptical" or "elliptical machine." I think there is one clip art with a dude. Everything else is women. And one grandma. 

But, it's easier on my knees than the treadmill. And I really just hate treadmills in general, for some reason, while I actually sort of enjoy the elliptical.  
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Who cares what people think about how you look whale.  You're using your head regarding your knees and longevity.  Longevity becomes the name of the game eventually so the sooner you figure that out the better off you are.

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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

  I decided to slink to the basement and use the weight bench that has been sitting idle since last December (when we purchased it). 


I like that you went for the most manliest of ways to get into shape - lifting heavy stuff - as opposed to me, who has started a twice-weekly elliptical routine as part of my being-healthier campaign. 

The elliptical is the least-manly form of exercise possible. It's impossible to look cool, or manly, or badass while on an elliptical machine. 

Seriously. Go to Google Images and look for "elliptical" or "elliptical machine." I think there is one clip art with a dude. Everything else is women. And one grandma. 

But, it's easier on my knees than the treadmill. And I really just hate treadmills in general, for some reason, while I actually sort of enjoy the elliptical.  



In your defense, Whale, pilates are probably the least manly exercise possible. I sometimes jump on the eliptical to burn extra calories when I'm trying to lose some weight.

I broke 300 on the bench for the first time yesterday. Kind of disappointing because I was really close a couple years ago and stopped lifting for a while. Regardless, kind of a cool bench mark, I'd like to get to 315(3 big plates on each side) and just start going for more reps.

If anyone wants another workout to rotate in with theirs I could post it.

Anyone else break their days down to Chest/Tris - Back/Bis - Shoulders/Forearms with abs every other day? It's definitely been my best way of doing thigns for gains.
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Originally posted by ammolord ammolord wrote:

Throw it up gatyr, I saw it on a few threads bit i lost em now.

Lurker's Experimental Method of Unified Resistance training.

To give everyone an idea of how strong this guy is, he's my height (6'3), same general body fat percentage, but he weighs ~50 pounds more than I do (I'm at 215, this guy was at 260 last I knew) because of the muscle he has packed on.

This is meant for the more experienced lifters, too. It's definitely not a workout plan that should be done if you haven't been lifting regularly and seriously for a while.

And cardio is king for general physical health.
Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

but stretching and light weight for starters would be a really good idea.

Stretching is something that gets neglected way too often, but stretching before you exercise is counterproductive and harmful. FYI.
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This summer I started doing cardio 3x a week, and I'll agree you actually do feel really good after. I'm having trouble sticking with it now that my work ended and I'm looking for a new job. I used to just go right after work as routine, now every single day is totally different.
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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

  I decided to slink to the basement and use the weight bench that has been sitting idle since last December (when we purchased it). 


I like that you went for the most manliest of ways to get into shape - lifting heavy stuff - as opposed to me, who has started a twice-weekly elliptical routine as part of my being-healthier campaign. 
The elliptical is the least-manly form of exercise possible. It's impossible to look cool, or manly, or badass while on an elliptical machine. 
Seriously. Go to Google Images and look for "elliptical" or "elliptical machine." I think there is one clip art with a dude. Everything else is women. And one grandma. 
But, it's easier on my knees than the treadmill. And I really just hate treadmills in general, for some reason, while I actually sort of enjoy the elliptical.  


What about stationary bikes? Nothing wrong with that, and it's either 50-50 or more men on stationary bikes when I've been going. I just throw something on netflix and tune out, just make sure you keep your cadence up. Also, my cycling fanatic friend informs me that an hour on a stationary bike is like 1.5 hours on a real bike because of the consistency and inability to coast inadvertantly.
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Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

 mbro what kind of bike did you get?  I have difficulty with road bike posture so i do urban assault with a mountain bike.  thinking about cranking out a short video of some centerline slaloming and stuff

 
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As far as my lifting routine it is:

A Days:
Squats
Bench press
Barbell rows

B Days:
Squats
Overhead press
Deadlifts

All lifts are 5X5 except for deads which are 1x5. I increase weight for each lift by 5lbs each workout.

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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by Lightningbolt Lightningbolt wrote:

 mbro what kind of bike did you get?  I have difficulty with road bike posture so i do urban assault with a mountain bike.  thinking about cranking out a short video of some centerline slaloming and stuff

 
It's a 2006 Soecialized



As far as my lifting routine it is:

A Days:
Squats
Bench press
Barbell rows

B Days:
Squats
Overhead press
Deadlifts

All lifts are 5X5 except for deads which are 1x5. I increase weight for each lift by 5lbs each workout.

welcome aboard to the specialized family mon!  I'm on my second in 25 years

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Chewp, at least for me the stationary is a great concept for rainy days and off season but it is so hard for me to sit on one.  It has to be one of the most boring things ever.

IMO a great benefit of the stationary is the consistent loads applied to the body which helps to keep from damaging yourself.  Jumping curbs, riding road, stop and go., inclines,  etc. can be hard on the body.

Here the vintage Spesh sits on the stationary next to the wifes Trek Navigator


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Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

  I decided to slink to the basement and use the weight bench that has been sitting idle since last December (when we purchased it). 


I like that you went for the most manliest of ways to get into shape - lifting heavy stuff - as opposed to me, who has started a twice-weekly elliptical routine as part of my being-healthier campaign. 

The elliptical is the least-manly form of exercise possible. It's impossible to look cool, or manly, or badass while on an elliptical machine. 

Seriously. Go to Google Images and look for "elliptical" or "elliptical machine." I think there is one clip art with a dude. Everything else is women. And one grandma. 

But, it's easier on my knees than the treadmill. And I really just hate treadmills in general, for some reason, while I actually sort of enjoy the elliptical.  
I don't like the elliptical machines.  Make my hips sore for some reason.  I have sore knees, but have not had any problems on most treadmills.  Most of the ones I've used have a lot of give to them that absorbs most of the shock and the shoes make a difference as well.  Swapped out my cross-trainers for actual running shoes.  Couldn't believe the difference.
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Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Lurker's Experimental Method of Unified Resistance training.
There is quite a bit of this technique built into how I was trained especially the speed and explosiveness of the lifting.  When I competed in bench, your goal was to move that bar as fast as you could using all your muscles on concert.  If they all didn't fire at the same time, you were stuck with a dual-step lift that could get you red-lighted.  Namely, you 1) Use your chest to get the bar up high enough for the triceps to take over.  If you hesitate enough between making two efforts to lift the weight, you'll fail.
 
We did a lot of other bar loading techniques.  Some were to simulate using a bench shirt.  Putting weighted chains on the bar that rested on the floor.  The higher the bar went, the heavier the bar got as it went along.  Another way was suspending the bar with large rubber bands which would take some of the weight off at the top of the lift.  These same bands could be used to strap the bar to the floor or the bench itself which gives the same kind of resistence as adding chains to each end of the bar.  But each lift from beginning to end had to be explosive like you had a powderkeg on your chest propelling the bar up to the ceiling.
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