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    Posted: 20 May 2012 at 8:45pm
Drove by the 'new' encampment of 'Occupy Lincoln' this afternoon. A small 'park' between two strip malls. Right next door to the camp were two bussinesses with help wanted signs in thier windown and on a temp 'billboard' in front of both stores. And not one of the 'Occupy' types probably even noticed.
Unemployment in Lincoln, NE is less than 4%, new businesses between Lincoln and Omaha are having to import labor from Texas. Good jobs too. At the new AutoZone distribution center $17.50 day shift, and a $1.50 night differential, and they are screaming for applicants. Smart Chicken distro center same wages, Tractor Supply distro center starts at $18.25. Lincoln plating which does chrome plating for Vistory as well as Harley $22.50 (son in law got a job there after 2 day wait after app submitted).
It seems no one want to get hands dirty, not that there are not any jobs.
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Seriously though, what's with whining to us? If you'd simply pulled yourself up by your bootstraps you could have bought a camera with worthless fiat dollars.
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All digs at OS aside, I have noticed something similar.  Granted, the local economy kind of sucks, but there are jobs there for those who want them.  The impression I get is that quite a few are upset enough to whine but not really desperate enough to take work that they consider to be beneath them.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

All digs at OS aside, I have noticed something similar.  Granted, the local economy kind of sucks, but there are jobs there for those who want them.  The impression I get is that quite a few are upset enough to whine but not really desperate enough to take work that they consider to be beneath them.



Well also the issue isn't just "theres no jobs" by any means. The issue is with distribution of wealth, taxation, etc. Now it's pretty hard to defend occupy since they have completely lost their way and derailed a million times by now, but I just remember that being the core originally.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

All digs at OS aside, I have noticed something similar.  Granted, the local economy kind of sucks, but there are jobs there for those who want them.  The impression I get is that quite a few are upset enough to whine but not really desperate enough to take work that they consider to be beneath them.
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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Seriously though, what's with whining to us? If you'd simply pulled yourself up by your bootstraps you could have bought a camera with worthless fiat dollars.



I don't think he was whining. It's just an expression because he found the irony of the situation he was viewing memorable.

Though, I'm sure you knew that already, and we're just clinging to the over worn cliche of bashing OS which most of the forum has moved past.

FE is our scapegoat now, go pick on him.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Seriously though, what's with whining to us? If you'd simply pulled yourself up by your bootstraps you could have bought a camera with worthless fiat dollars.



I don't think he was whining. It's just an expression because he found the irony of the situation he was viewing memorable.

Though, I'm sure you knew that already, and we're just clinging to the over worn cliche of bashing OS which most of the forum has moved past.

FE is our scapegoat now, go pick on him.


If I bash OS it's in jest, definitely not a cliche. I think he's pretty well respected here.
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I wish OS would type standard English instead of broken English.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Seriously though, what's with whining to us? If you'd simply pulled yourself up by your bootstraps you could have bought a camera with worthless fiat dollars.



I don't think he was whining. It's just an expression because he found the irony of the situation he was viewing memorable.

Though, I'm sure you knew that already, and we're just clinging to the over worn cliche of bashing OS which most of the forum has moved past.

FE is our scapegoat now, go pick on him.


If I bash OS it's in jest, definitely not a cliche. I think he's pretty well respected here.


I didn't mean anyone in particular, but it was not long ago that every time OS posted, he was subject to unfair levels of snark/criticism/etc. just not something I'd like to see come back
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$17 an hour? Wow, and I'm sure the cost of living there has to be cheap.

But most of the occupiers pursued a college education, in hopes they could sit at a computer. Anything involving standing or any physical work is below them. Tongue

I don't blame them for being pissed off, that the American dream has gone out the window for our generation. Most have come to realize the American dream was propped up my credit, something that has crashed into realization. They have thousands in student debt, but cannot obtain 50k+ job out of college.

Now their credit is wrecked, which will prevent them from obtaining a high paying job. They can't obtain a loan to purchase a house, which is depressing because those who can. Usually have a cheaper mortgage payment, than those who are renting. They are stuck driving their old car, which is constantly breaking down. But don't have the knowledge, nor resources to fix it themselves. (Many apartment complexes won't allow vehicle repairs in the parking lots)

So they are stuck, spinning their wheels. Paying rent on something they will never own. Constantly dumping money into their vehicle. And having credit payment between $300-$1000 a month. Which many of them will default on.

They see no way out, no way to get ahead. They were promised if they got good grades, went to college, everything would be great. But nothing is improving, daily we hear the next crisis, more doom and gloom.

But thankfully we Americans still have it good,for now. We can print money, unlike our Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal counterparts.


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Originally posted by impulse418 impulse418 wrote:

$17 an hour? Wow, and I'm sure the cost of living there has to be cheap.

But most of the occupiers pursued a college education, in hopes they could sit at a computer. Anything involving standing or any physical work is below them. Tongue

I don't blame them for being pissed off, that the American dream has gone out the window for our generation. Most have come to realize the American dream was propped up my credit, something that has crashed into realization. They have thousands in student debt, but cannot obtain 50k+ job out of college.

Now their credit is wrecked, which will prevent them from obtaining a high paying job. They can't obtain a loan to purchase a house, which is depressing because those who can. Usually have a cheaper mortgage payment, than those who are renting. They are stuck driving their old car, which is constantly breaking down. But don't have the knowledge, nor resources to fix it themselves. (Many apartment complexes won't allow vehicle repairs in the parking lots)

So they are stuck, spinning their wheels. Paying rent on something they will never own. Constantly dumping money into their vehicle. And having credit payment between $300-$1000 a month. Which many of them will default on.

They see no way out, no way to get ahead. They were promised if they got good grades, went to college, everything would be great. But nothing is improving, daily we hear the next crisis, more doom and gloom.

But thankfully we Americans still have it good,for now. We can print money, unlike our Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal counterparts.






Printing money would be a terrible idea.
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I'm fairly certain the "printing money" thing was sarcasm.
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Printing money is a terrible idea, but we are doing it. At a alarming rate. That is why we are ok, for now. All the states are doing is buying time, until the inevitable. 
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A:) I'd kill to make 18-20 bucks an hour here, nothing entry level here pays even close to that. Even the nurses and EMT's don't do much better than that (if that) when first starting out.
 
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Originally posted by impulse418 impulse418 wrote:

They see no way out, no way to get ahead. They were promised if they got good grades, went to college, everything would be great. But nothing is improving, daily we hear the next crisis, more doom and gloom.
 
I got ready to make a pissy reply to Impulse's post, but instead I find myself wholeheartedly agreeing with him. The college system in America isn't working for alot of college students, and while we can point the finger in a dozen directions nothing changes that fact. If college were free you could just shrug and say "whoops, wrong degree buddy" but the fact is that college is incredibly expensive and even the "safe" degrees aren't safe anymore.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

A:) I'd kill to make 18-20 bucks an hour here, nothing entry level here pays even close to that. Even the nurses and EMT's don't do much better than that (if that) when first starting out.
 


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EMT's and Paras' make garbage, they're not in it for the money and can't be compared to nurses on pay scale. I also promise RNs are starting at least over 20$.

The rest I agree with.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

A:) I'd kill to make 18-20 bucks an hour here, nothing entry level here pays even close to that. Even the nurses and EMT's don't do much better than that (if that) when first starting out.
 


First:

EMT's and Paras' make garbage for what they do, but they're not in it for the money and can't be compared to nurses on pay scale. I also promise RNs are starting at least over 20$.

I'd complain with my starting pay being 18hr after four years of school, if it weren't for the fact it's an incredibly easy job almost 100% of the time. Work life and satisfaction weigh heavily into the equation, and often these entry level jobs which pay high do so because it's nightmare. 

The rest I agree with. 



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Maybe CNA's and LVN's make under $20, but RN's still do good.
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