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lukers413
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Joined: 14 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 22 |
Topic: Palmer Stabilizer????Posted: 02 July 2004 at 2:50pm |
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I have a 98c and a J&j ceramic, and double tirgger. I play woods ball and just started playing speedball. I was looking for some thing like an x-chamber or regulator. Then i came across this Palmer Stabilizer that people were telling me about. If you can give me any information about it like... What exactly does it do If it is worth getting it would there be any other suggestions on what to get Where would you get it about how much does it cost thanks |
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LordJovian
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Joined: 01 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
Posted: 02 July 2004 at 2:56pm |
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It acts as an expansion chamber (allows liquid CO2 to have more room & time to expand into gas) and as a regulator (allows certain amount of pressure in to make shots consistent). You know how on the chronograph when you shoot it goes from 285 to 296 to 287 to 280? It helps that not be as random. Plus liquid CO2 is very very frigid and damages o-rings inside your gun and also causes spikes in velocity and can also accelearte any rusting that can occur if not oiled enough. CO2 is cold which causes water vapor to condense, which is one reason why people go to N2 or HPA (same thing). Plus, the Palmer Stabilizer can be used for CO2 or Nitro.
http://www.palmer-pursuit.com *edit* It's a very good idea. You'd probably want to get the Palmer Male. Edited by LordJovian |
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shooky
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Joined: 07 August 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 850 |
Posted: 02 July 2004 at 5:07pm |
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^ Regulators are not expansion chambers! I wish you'd stop telling people that.
Expansion chambers allow liquid C02 to expand into a gas. But it doesn't do anything to control how much gas enters your gun. They increase your consistency, but you can have the occassional velocity spike. Since HPA tanks store air/nitrogen gas, an expansion chamber would be little more than a gas through grip. Regulators restrict airflow to allow a certain amount of pressure and gas to enter your market, giving you a more predictible velocity over the chronograph. Espcially since you have the ability to control that pressure. However MOST regulators cannot withstand the freezing liquid C02, hence THEY ARE NOT EXPANSION CHAMBERS. The reason why the Palmer Stabilizer can work with C02, is because the seals inside the regulator are built to withstand the liquid C02. That doesn't make them expansion chambers. Expansion chambers have sections/stages/chambers to trap liquid C02. Regulators have springs and seals.
1) I answered in the above statement. 2) Yes, it's worth getting. Control over your air flow = greater consistency over velocity = greater accuracy = tighter groupings. 3) Do you mean other worthwhile upgrades? High Pressure Air tanks would be good. But that depends on your availability of compressed air or nitrogen. 4) I got mine from Palmer Pursuit, but it can also be bought from County Paintball 5) About $90-110 With a 98c, if you bought a male Stabilizer, you would have to buy a vertical adapter. I believe you can also get a direct Stabilizer, which would screw in where your steel braided hose is screwed into currently. However, if you decide to ever get another marker, you'd have a difficult time finding an adapter for it. Another option is to get a female Stabilizer, which replaces your ASA adapter. A ring kit or block kit would need to be purchased in order to mount it correctly. If you like remotes, then you might consider the inline Stabilizer. Screws directly onto your tank and then connects to your hose. Edited by shooky |
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mod98commando
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Joined: 10 June 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4432 |
Posted: 02 July 2004 at 6:21pm |
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While the stabilizer isn't really an x-chamber, it does sort of act like one by giving the CO2 more space to turn to a gas. When I finally decided to test out CO2 with my stabilizer it took almost the whole tank (16oz) to make the thing freeze up and even after that my gun wasn't frozen, just the reg. The regulator kept my pressure and velocity very consistent despite the fact that I was using CO2 and it kept the liquid CO2 out of the gun. I didn't have a single problem using CO2 with my A5 with the stabilizer on and I'm sure it could do that for any gun. I wouldn't buy the stabilizer as an x-chamber but if you'd like to have both a reg and an x-chamber on your gun but can't, get the stabilizer. It will work about just as good. I think the stabilizer actually works better than my old x-chamber does. Anyway, I highly suggest getting one, it does an excellent job, especially with nitro.
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