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    Posted: 04 December 2004 at 2:14pm
k,

just read the new idea forum,

A. what the hell is wrong with having proper bullet shaped rounds,, and
just rifling the barel like any other gun.

B; why isnt there a 40mm tenis ball sized big ass paintball,,, mabey with a
percentage of foam in it to make it not take off ur limbs,,

C. off that topic but does anyone think that one of those scenario m16 a3
barel covers would fit round a flatline. actually,, its quiet short,, probly
look more like an m4. and what about if you put one of those m203 heat
dispating barel guards on it,, there big,, would they fit round it?

cheers fellas,, crazy ideas,,
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Rifiling the barrel will decrease the accuracey of a paintball.  Seeing as there is fluid inside the paintball, and when the paintball flys through the air this fluid gets swished around.  By rifling the barrel, if it rotated the paintball at all, it would just increase this swishing making it even more less accurate.  If you got any rotation it wouldn't be very much.

Why would you wan't to shoot tennis balls at someone when you can just light them up with your paintball marker?

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no, when a paintball goes through a rifled barrel, the shell will spin, and the fluid stays still, just like if u have a glass w/ water and ice in it, try it, if u spin the glass, the water and ice will stay in its place as the glass moves, this is what happens to a paintball and is y rifling a paintball barrel does nothing to increase accuracy

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what about if u put a low density foam in there so that it would stop the
fluid swishing,,

im a bit of a scenario player and im always wanting to make things
cooler,, and i think firing a 44mm paintball could take out a few players if
they were close enough,,, i saw this one photo after a motro atack and
there was paint every where,,, eliminated 8 players that were stupidly
behind the same cover,,, so a 44 mm paintball would at least be fun to
use if not that practical
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http://forum.ariakon.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=900&PN=1

That is written by a friend of mine. I am eagle over there btw. This explains why things such as rifleing will not work and why.

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The fill is not that thin so it doesnt move, it will move with the paintball.  The paintball's velocity is not so high that it the shell is the only moving part.  Besides, whether or not im wrong the shell is spinning hence making it more suceptable to wind, and other elemants hense lowering accuracy.

Originally posted by limster limster wrote:

what about if u put a low density foam in there so that it would stop the
fluid swishing,,

im a bit of a scenario player and im always wanting to make things
cooler,, and i think firing a 44mm paintball could take out a few players if
they were close enough,,, i saw this one photo after a motro atack and
there was paint every where,,, eliminated 8 players that were stupidly
behind the same cover,,, so a 44 mm paintball would at least be fun to
use if not that practical



I thought you literraly ment shooting a tennisball at someone


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Originally posted by PaintbalChrisA5 PaintbalChrisA5 wrote:

no, when a paintball goes through a rifled
barrel, the shell will spin, and the fluid stays still, just like if u have a
glass w/ water and ice in it, try it, if u spin the glass, the water and ice
will stay in its place as the glass moves, this is what happens to a
paintball and is y rifling a paintball barrel does nothing to increase
accuracy


its not the paint that u need to keep acurate,,,, its the ball as a whole,,, u
still need the case to rotate for it not to tumble through the air
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has anyone actually built one to see what it would be like?
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The closest i have seen is rifled porting.
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the slime from the balls is in the barrel, so thus Glass correct, if u even feel inside or look in your barrel, u will see the slime, and feel the slime of the ball. thats whay even in manuals, troubleshooting- why is the ball curving- reasons- the gellation from the paintball in the barrel, clean barrel.

 

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Obvisially no one read the my post. That link leads you to another forum, which proves why rifleing the barrel wont work.
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Originally posted by -cockerkilla99- -cockerkilla99- wrote:

the slime from the balls is in the barrel, so thus Glass correct, if u even feel inside or look in your barrel, u will see the slime, and feel the slime of the ball. thats whay even in manuals, troubleshooting- why is the ball curving- reasons- the gellation from the paintball in the barrel, clean barrel.

 



Whether or not the barrel is clean will effect it, but what i was talking about had nothing to do with the condition of the barrel.
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what about the flatline,, it manages to grip the balls
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hmm bullet shaped paintballs eh.  well thats not the newest of ideas is it?  this would not work for 1 main reason.  if you have bullet shaped paintballs then you would have to have some sort of magazine on your marker. some senario players might say cool but a magazine can only store about 30 rounds and as paintballs are bigger then it would be about 20.  and then you would have to swap magazines all the time, and this would be expensive and reloading would be very often and teadious.  so its real not of great convinience to have bullet shaped balls.  also accuracy and range would only improve slightly and there for it would be useless.

another point is that paint manufactures will not buy a whole load of new parts for some wacky idea.  so paintballs would cost a hell of a lot.

paintball guns do not have the velocity to make rifleling effective.

if it moves it becomes a target.

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Originally posted by limster limster wrote:

what about the flatline,, it manages to grip the balls

thats because it is curved, the paintball wants to go straight but hits the barrel so that friction would make it grip the barrel and curve.

if it moves it becomes a target.

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but it does grip cuz they say dont oil it,
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Making the paintballs bullet shape will accually decrease accuracy. This was done by a company a while back, and they failed. We are still basically throwing jell-o at people. Making them bullet shape would make its wobble towards the target and would lose accuracy. We would need to make the back sort of plastic(as the company talked about before did) and make it go as insane velocitys. This would make them very dangerous(plasic even at 250 fps can be extremely dangerous.

The magazines talked about by gumball would also be a problem.

Read this http://forum.ariakon.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=900&PN=1 before posting again. This PROVES why paintballs, will never be as accurate as a real gun.



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STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE,,, TRY TO BE CONSTRUCTIVE FOR ONCE,,,
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why cant u just have fun the way we all been.

who cares, buy the paint, shoot it, have fun.

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