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lately people are telling me to get for my next gun to get a mag so ive decided to look around and i found two guns that look like my price range and what i like i looked at the ULE and the custom one which is a little more my question is which one is better and could you give me some details also what do they mean by the slug body type and it will come unasembelled???

also on mags do you have to buy a warp feeder to use it or can you just put a hopper on the feedneck???

Edited by Mr.Shake56

ULE bodies are cocker threaded, not Angel threaded.  They come in center feed or warp feed left/right.  "Regular" Mag bodies are "powerfeed l/r", but that does not mean you have to use a warp.  A regular elbow allows a regular hopper without any problem, but you will have offset feed, and a little taller than a vertical feed ULE body.

i dont know the difference could someone thats really familar with mags tell me

The feedneck is removable on your ULE body?  Mine is pretty much not coming off...

thanks you guys so which one is better buy the 355 one or save up because i have 320 right now

If you look in the gun of the month voting you will see what looks like A RT ULE Paradigm mag w/ aftermarket barrel and on/off. I would save up for a Paradigm mag from themagsmith.com b/c they are so nice, I dont know how much they cost. Just go look.

Hold on here. 

Best to start clean and find out exactly what you want not what others are telling you to get.  IM on my Third mag and do higly recomend them but their are so many differant possible configurations that say to just gert a mag is impossible. 

Basically Mags consist of a body Valve and bolt and a rail and triggerframe THATS IT.  All of these parts are interchangable from the variouse models for the most  part.  Buying a mag is unlike most other markers as you really pick and chose the parts you want to put to geather this is one of the things that makes a mag so unique but also condems them from being more mainstream.


Ill try and give a shot description of the variouse parts  and whats the pluse and minus of each that are currently for sale NEW.

THE BODIES:

ULE body: Cocker threaded barrel angle threaded Feed neck and aluminum light weight construction  (can be vert feed or warb feed style)

TAC: bode basically a a woodsball ULE body with on board rails

Karta body: Basically just a fancy milled ULE body with a mathing rail

Slug body: UN milled ULE body sold for coustom milling

MiniMag Body: Old school stainless steel body with slots cut horizontily on the front section.  Comes in numerouse finishes..  Uses uncommon Mag twist lock barrels and the barrel IS both the breach of the gun and houses your detent (VERY fast to remove and install barrel). (comes in left or right power feed and a hand full of VERT feed (barrels for Vert feeds are hard to find but the left and right feeds barrels are easy enough to find)  THis is the body i have on my own gun.

Automag Classic: Very similare to the Minimag bodies just without the vents



NOW FOR RAILS:

Classic MM/AM rail:  Its simple but heavy but also VERY common and performs every bit the same as the rest Rails are purly astetics and weight.  (What i use on my mag)

RT/Pro Rail: again simple but built with light weight aluminum and a differant shape

Karta Rail: Mathes the Karta body

Tac Rail: Similare to the ule rail differant asstetics


TRIGGER FRAMES:

MM/AM Classic Frames:  AGD standard Light weight composie single trigger frames

Intellie Frames: AGD factory Light weight Aluminaum duel finger frames with either Blad triggers or more traditional double finger triggers.  Also milled inside to accept electronics to connect a revie hopper to the trigger to activate the hopper every trigger pull.  (what i use on my mag)

RPG Chimera Frames:  More common of the after market 90* frames very similar to the angel frames

AGD Y-Grip:  Odd ball frame built for the speedballers comfort.  thing a 45 frame slanted forward instead of back.  Apperantly VERY comfy for a speed ballers wrist position.



Now VALVES:

Classic Valve:  Old Valve with a max cyucle rate of around 15bps.  Capable of accepting the Level 10 bolt (more on that later).  Can run on Co2 or HPA.  Heavy stainless steel construction but very simplisic easy to maintain valve.
(i have one of these as a backup)

X Valve:  VERY fast recharge rate for a max cycle speed of over 30bps.  accepts both the level ten and ULT upgrades.  REQUIERS use of a HPA tank ONLY.  Built with light weight aluminim and usually comes with the level ten upgrade (this is whats always installed on my mag).


And now for the two very common UPS:

Bolts:

Level 7 bolt:  Simple bolt with no frills always works no tuning rquiered.  Decent air efficancy

Level 10 bolt:  THE BEST mehcanical anit chop system EVER created.  wont chop anything if tuned right.  Can shoot you finger and it wont pinch.  But can be finicy to tune and requiers some time to tune for  lower velocities.  (have this on both my valves although i want a level seven for my classic vave for simplicity)


ON/OFF ASSEMBLYS (part of the valves). 

AM/MM ON/OFF:  What comes in all classic valves

RT on off: Slightly light trigger pull than the Classics on/off stock in X-valves and the older RT valves(rt valves are just stainless stell x valves)  Also these valves work best in the EMAGS

ULT on/off:  a upgrade ON/OFF assembly makes the trigger pull EXTREAMLY light and very walkable.  But requiers some tunning to get to your preferace.  CAN NOT BE PROPERLY used in classic vlaves.
(use this on my X-Valve)


So thats the basics (Theirs alot more you can do but that should help with getting started and deciding what ya want from a mag).

IF ya have any questions shoot me a PM and i see if i can help.

wheres the best website to buy from and get the best deals??

I would definately go to themagsmith and geta a Paradigm mag or do Doro and get a Classic and built to your likings, but eventually  you will want an X-valved mag, so thats why Im pushing the Paradign mag.

HAHA my MAG kicks ass. You most deffinetly will love your mag when you get it. The mag smith is Deff. An amazing place to order from. Airgun Designs is 5 minutes away from my house I love it haha.