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    Posted: 05 March 2006 at 7:57pm

Im trying to rig a laptop fan in my mask, but i cant seem to make it work, I have a switch, battery and fan, when the switch is on, its fine, but if you turn it off, it kills the batteries, and  the batteries get hot.

Any idea what i need to do?

 



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your wiring is bad.
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you have it connected in parralel causing it to short it needs to be in series  . follow this.

take one lead from the battery to the switch, the other lead on the switch to the fan , the other lead on the fan to the battery.



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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, ok, thank you, i will do it now and reply in a few. thanks man.
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Yeah your shorting out your batteries, try a different wiring job. One wire from battery, to switch to fan back to battery.
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Originally posted by cus98tom cus98tom wrote:

you have it connected in parralel it needs to be in series. follow this.

take one lead from the battery to the switch, the other lead on the switch to the fan , the other lead on the fan to the battery.

I just tried that and nothing works

I dont get it

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simple take one black and yellow wire off the switch and connect them. be sure they are both +'s or -'s
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its been awhile, but I think you need to disconnect the yellows from the switch, they(yellow) can be twisted together, and the black wires can have one prong on the switch.  Someone correct me.    Its been awhile, forgot the terms to. 

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Run a wire from the positive side of the battery to the switch. Run a wire from the other switch post to the positive side of fan. Run the negative wire from the fan directly to the battery.

If you don't know which wire for the fan is the positive one, hook it up either way, if the fan is turing the correct direction you have it right.
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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

Run a wire from the positive side of the battery to the switch. Run a wire from the other switch post to the positive side of fan. Run the negative wire from the fan directly to the battery.

If you don't know which wire for the fan is the positive one, hook it up either way, if the fan is turing the correct direction you have it right.

Thank you so much, it worked, and your directions were very clear

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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

Run a wire from the positive side of the battery to the switch. Run a wire from the other switch post to the positive side of fan. Run the negative wire from the fan directly to the battery.

If you don't know which wire for the fan is the positive one, hook it up either way, if the fan is turing the correct direction you have it right.

Good job Traveler.    Kinda brain-farting on this side. 

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yeah, go back to grade 8 and learn how circuits work :p

you have the battery wires connected to the fan wires directly...
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Originally posted by RavenGuard RavenGuard wrote:

yeah, go back to grade 8 and learn how circuits work :p

you have the battery wires connected to the fan wires directly...

hey, its hooked up now.  I take it you didn't get enough chocolate bunnies ? 

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Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

Originally posted by RavenGuard RavenGuard wrote:

yeah, go back to grade 8 and learn how circuits work :p

you have the battery wires connected to the fan wires directly...

hey, its hooked up now.  I take it you didn't get enough chocolate bunnies ? 



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Originally posted by RavenGuard RavenGuard wrote:

Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

Originally posted by RavenGuard RavenGuard wrote:

yeah, go back to grade 8 and learn how circuits work :p

you have the battery wires connected to the fan wires directly...

hey, its hooked up now.  I take it you didn't get enough chocolate bunnies ? 



:(  i ate them all.

Ha! Go buy some more. Oh, and yeah I agree... Its not that difficult to  wire a simple circuit together if you have passed middle school science. I actully learned circuits in 6th grade.
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Is there anything i can do to make it more powerful?

I have two 9 volt batteries hooked up now.

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It depends on how you have the batteries wired. You can double your voltage by running one wire to the positive on one battery, and the other wire to the negative side of the second battery. You then add a third wire from the unused positive on the first battery to the unused negative of the second battery.

This is called "in series" wiring.




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2 things you can do.  Get a larger fan..... that may be a little larger and less to work with inside your mask.  Second you can get a fan the same size with higher CFM (Cubic Feet per Minute).   P.S. Don't ask me about how long they will last with the batteries, because I wouldn't know how to calculate that, sorry.
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Originally posted by TRAVELER TRAVELER wrote:

  You then add a third wire from the unused positive on the first battery to the unused negative of the second battery.

This is called "in series" wiring.


I didnt think you could directly connect a negative and a postive together?

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It's complicated to explain in detail, so I'll just say: trust me. I just converted a hunting cabin to solar power, five solar panels, charge regulator, power inverter, and 6 deepcycle 6v batteries.

If I can wire 6 6v batteries to equal 12v of output, I can honestly tell you that you will get 18 volts output from your two batteries if you wire them as I explained.

Make sure that it isn't too much power for your fan, if it gets hot, turn it off.
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