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    Posted: 25 September 2006 at 11:02pm
i have a tippmann RT and when i find the sweet spot some times the bolt will not cock all the way back. it also happens when i fire quick burst.
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To help that problem, get an x-chamber, or remote, or Stabilizer, or anti-siphon, or all of the above.

To instantly make the problem go away, get nitro.

CO2 + high ROF = bad

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Clark kent, I know that a remote act's like a x- chamber. The anti-siphon helps to break up the liquid co2 into a gas. But i have read that the r/t likes the liquid. Is this wrong? Also I have read many post's about the r/t working best with co2? I have yet to have any problems with mine. I have practiced and found my (sweet spot) and I can now empty my hopper at will if I want. I just use plain co2.

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The RT hates liquid.  Or rather, the RT doesn't care, but the gun itself hates the liquid.  Liquid CO2 + almost any paintball gun = bad.

People often have an easier time sweetspotting the RT with CO2 due to the higher output pressure from CO2 tanks.  Nitro works great with the RT, once you re-tune and re-learn the RT.

But if you aren't freezing, and are sweetspotting well, I would stay with the setup you've got.  While there are other benefits to nitro, the main benefit (by a large margin) is the lack of freeze.  If freezing isn't a problem for you, don't fix what ain't broke.

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Hm...I can tell you that before I strapped on my X-Core, my R\T worked much better....after studying and reading, I found out that it's because some liquid c02 gets into the R\T hose, expands, then gets sucked in....makes sense. 
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^^^^^  Interesting theory - hadn't heard that before.

But, ultimately, the real question is what works.  My RT was almost useless on CO2 because it would freeze so fast.

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Well... here's the thing, I had an anti-siphon tank, and it worked fine... after I strapped the X-Core, it wouldn't work at all. So I got an E-Grip after countless hours of checking seals, and tuning.
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maybe you need a spring kit, try the maddman spring kit

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i always sweetspot my r/t and it hardly ever freezes. maybe it becomes a little coated with ice but thats rare
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I gotta Agree with Clark Kent on this " CO2 + High Rate of fire = Not that great" ,,,, BUT ,,,

Tippmann's are probably THE ONLY marker ever designed to operate on liquid CO2 (the 68 Special , Talk about a Gas Hogg !! ) , and the production Tippmann's of today will handle anything a CO2 bottle can throw at them . They werent designed to shoot liquid exclusively , but they CAN handle liquid  CO2 better than any other marker out there .

I've never used HPA , and had very good , if not great performance from the stock propellant setup tippmann uses , I can shoot high RoF as long as thats not exclusively what I shoot . With the 98 Customs I've owned , after a while , I will get some minor shootdown and loss of velocity , thats my signal to back off for a bit if it happens .

The more acessories you add to your marker , such as the RT , despite the claims of using  "Excess gas" , they do use more CO2 to operate and will cause more cooling of the CO2 than a stock set-up . Same is true of the  "Cyclone feed System" , anything that Uses gas,,,, USES GAS !!

Tobert , you've got the Car stock on your marker , that can change the spring tension and behavior of the 98 when under High rates of fire , my suggestion would be,, to take the Car stock off , and see if the same symptoms exist . This will narrow down the cause of the behavior of your marker and give you an idea of what you need to do for a "Fix" . It sounds like you are experiencing "Shoot-down" way too early .

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I had the carstock on my gun and it put so much pressure on the spring that out of a 20oz I was getting like 500 shots! I took it off and my gun looks much better w\o it AND I get alot more shots..
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I have a car stock also. Never noticed any change after install. How can it put more pressure on the spring? It's the same as my end cap except a stock is sticking off the end of it. Also what tecumseh said, sometimes happens to me. I sometimes notice the fittings become frosted over. But It still keeps shooting.

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Car Stocks have been very well known to put more pressure on your drive spring....it varies, just as some will easily SLIDE Into your gun where as others you almost have to get a hammer to get them in.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tobert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2006 at 2:03pm
would a lighter bolt help more than the stock bolt that i have?
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