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    Posted: 29 March 2007 at 9:50pm
ive been on the forum for a little while. what is a mag exactly i see that they are very customizeable but that are they?
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mag?? maybe for milsim marker's?? or not... prehap's an auto mag??.. a type of marker maybe.. best bet is to type it up in the search box
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yeah, i have no idea what that is
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AGD Automags are one of the older types of semi-automatic paintball markers that made their debut around the same time as Bud Orr's Autococker. The Automag works on a fairly unique principle of operation called a blow-forward design. Basically, the air enters the rear of the valve (which is comprised of an on/off switch that is operated by the "sear", a regulator, a valve body, and diffusion ports) and moves through the system where it pushes against the bolt (which is held rearward by a spring pushing on it from the front) and pushes it forward, pushing the ball into the breach and firing it all at the same time. There are only two other marker systems that I am aware of that work on a principle that is almost identical. The Badger series of markers from Australia (which were developed independent of Tom Kaye's Automag design) and the Invert Mini. Other blow-forward type designs exist, the spool-valve operated markers such as the Matrix, Shocker, and impulse lines work off of the principle of the bolt being blown-forward pneumatically rather than mechanically, but they use a separate air-flow to achieve the forward momentum and use air flow to return the bolt to the rearward position rather than a spring.

I think the reason that AGD Automags are as desirable as they are is the fact that they are machined to a very high tolerance and are made of high quality materials. Not to mention the fact that the unique operating design is an oddity in a world of solenoid activated spool-valve, and knock-open poppet valves. Personally, I'm not a fan of mags for use. They're pretty, but I've always had better results with my 'cocker when it comes to high-end mechanical markers.
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Mags are markers made by AGD.


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He is talking about an automag, made by Air Gun Designs, they used to be popular. They were considered a high end marker in competition with autocockers before the mass use the electropneumatic markers.

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well i guess its the automag what i mean but everyone calls the mags so.
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

AGD Automags are one of the older types of semi-automatic paintball markers that made their debut around the same time as Bud Orr's Autococker. The Automag works on a fairly unique principle of operation called a blow-forward design. Basically, the air enters the rear of the valve (which is comprised of an on/off switch that is operated by the "sear", a regulator, a valve body, and diffusion ports) and moves through the system where it pushes against the bolt (which is held rearward by a spring pushing on it from the front) and pushes it forward, pushing the ball into the breach and firing it all at the same time. There are only two other marker systems that I am aware of that work on a principle that is almost identical. The Badger series of markers from Australia (which were developed independent of Tom Kaye's Automag design) and the Invert Mini. Other blow-forward type designs exist, the spool-valve operated markers such as the Matrix, Shocker, and impulse lines work off of the principle of the bolt being blown-forward pneumatically rather than mechanically, but they use a separate air-flow to achieve the forward momentum and use air flow to return the bolt to the rearward position rather than a spring.

I think the reason that AGD Automags are as desirable as they are is the fact that they are machined to a very high tolerance and are made of high quality materials. Not to mention the fact that the unique operating design is an oddity in a world of solenoid activated spool-valve, and knock-open poppet valves. Personally, I'm not a fan of mags for use. They're pretty, but I've always had better results with my 'cocker when it comes to high-end mechanical markers.
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Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

AGD Automags are one of the older types of semi-automatic paintball markers that made their debut around the same time as Bud Orr's Autococker. The Automag works on a fairly unique principle of operation called a blow-forward design. Basically, the air enters the rear of the valve (which is comprised of an on/off switch that is operated by the "sear", a regulator, a valve body, and diffusion ports) and moves through the system where it pushes against the bolt (which is held rearward by a spring pushing on it from the front) and pushes it forward, pushing the ball into the breach and firing it all at the same time. There are only two other marker systems that I am aware of that work on a principle that is almost identical. The Badger series of markers from Australia (which were developed independent of Tom Kaye's Automag design) and the Invert Mini. Other blow-forward type designs exist, the spool-valve operated markers such as the Matrix, Shocker, and impulse lines work off of the principle of the bolt being blown-forward pneumatically rather than mechanically, but they use a separate air-flow to achieve the forward momentum and use air flow to return the bolt to the rearward position rather than a spring.

I think the reason that AGD Automags are as desirable as they are is the fact that they are machined to a very high tolerance and are made of high quality materials. Not to mention the fact that the unique operating design is an oddity in a world of solenoid activated spool-valve, and knock-open poppet valves. Personally, I'm not a fan of mags for use. They're pretty, but I've always had better results with my 'cocker when it comes to high-end mechanical markers.
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Mags are nice, will hopefully own one some day just to say I have a mag. But something about the bolt going 270fps creeps me out about them.

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is the any place to order a automag http://www.airgun.com has emags, minimags, and something called the pro classic. (which i think is a remake of the 68 mag)
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I think the original automag is no longer made. Although every mag is basically a Valve, body, and Trigger frame the only difference between a Tac One and old school .68 Automags (I have one, go me) is the body (It has fancy rails) and the color/graphic on the valve.

They are very simple and reliable guns. The only thing I do not like about them is they feel like speedball guns. I like more of a rifle like feel.

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Mags are great guns.  Ive only shot mine, havent played with it yet.

They are kind of back heavy, but i absolutely love mine.  Heres some older pics of it.  I redid the line.  So it goes through the front grip, and has a quick disconnect on the valve.

Very tiny too.  Heres a pic comparing it to formerly my imp.


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The reason that I use an Automag is because it is the only marker that is as reliable as my old Tippmann.

I have 2 mags. They both work all the time, everytime, anytime.

My Emag will work even when the battery is dead.
To my knowledge there are no other electronic markers that can function without a battery.
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