Co2 to HPA

Nagash1959 wrote: The only thing is taht you must be sure that you have a high pressure HPA tank (as opposed to a low pressure one) otherwise the gun won't work.

Like Nagash said, you'll need a high preasure tank. Also, a remote will work just fine.

98Custom_Sniper wrote: compressed air is the same as high pressure air right?

Asked in this context the answer is NO! Compressed air refers to any air under pressure and is the common reference to shop air. Shop air runs 60 to 150 psi usually. HP air as in an HPA tank runs 3000 to 5000 psi...a pressure that cannot be reached by any shop compressor.

No you cannot fill your HPA tank from a shop compressor. HPA tanks are filled from High Pressure compressors like the type used to fill SCUBA tanks.

Now, when people say you have to use a high pressure tank for a Tippmann rather than a low pressure tank they are making a inaccurate statement. All HPA tanks are high pressure tanks...meaning that the air inside is HP (3000 to 5000 psi). The statement SHOULD be high pressure OUTPUT or low pressure OUTPUT.

The OUTPUT of a HP output tank is ~850 psi...right in the operating range of the standard 98C, 98CP or A-5. The OUTPUT of the LP output tank is ~400 psi which is about the proper range for a marker with a Low Pressure KIT installed.

Now a little caveat: To take full advantage of a LP Kit you really need to use a "secondary" regulator (the reg built into the HPA tank that delivers the 850 or 400 psi pressure in the "primary" regulator) to fine tune the operation of the marker . Also once the secondary reg is installed many people find that most consistent velocity is achieved by adjusting regulator pressure to control velocity rather than using either the power tube mounted velocity screw or an RVA.

With a secondary regulator (with the LPK) installed, it really makes no difference whether you us a high pressure output tank or a low pressure output tank. Be aware that a regulator cannot raise the pressure it only lowers it. So if you marker operates close to 400 psi then the low pressure output tank will not give you best secondary regulated performance.

98Custom_Sniper wrote: ok im gonna say that differently. can i put hpa in these tanks? and N2 tanks? http://www.badlandspaintball.com/airsystems/compressedsystem s.html

I know that science classes are woefully lacking these days, but with what I wrote and the info on those tanks, I really cannot understand why you just asked this "new" question!!!

Also, Badlands info about how to fill from a SCUBA tank is flat out wrong! You cannot fill an HPA (BTW, air is 80% nitrogen) by screwing it into a CO2 (ASA) style fitting. The tank valve is a one way valve because it has an internal regulator. HPA tank, whether steel or fiber wrapped, must be filled through the quick connect nipple.

And if you pay those prices, you are waisting a lot of money. Good used fiber wrapped tanks are available many places on the web for the same price as those steel tanks. Steel tanks are available NEW from many places for less than $100. Used steel tanks, still in test, can be had for around $50 from sales ads on PBNATION and Ebay among others.