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I've enjoyed watching as the man made global warming advocates have been proven to be making up their facts, and skewing their research to fit their predetermined criteria. The most troubling aspect is that I have to read UK newspapers to find actual journalism...
But, it has gotten so bad for "global warming scientists" that even
Our American "journalists" are a disgrace, to ignore so many huge stories for so long proves we not longer have "free speech". As they are part and parcel of the liberal agenda.
Here are a bunch of articles covering it in case you missed it.
And a quick google search showing how (besides fox, that obviously biased, non news source) NO journalists in America are covering this story?...
I guess being an ethical journalists is to only cover stories that fit your worldview...
shame.
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 8:27am |
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USA Today, (one of the premier papers in the country) even has a "climate science" section of their website...
Lets review that for a moment.
hmm... No mention of of the articles I posted above... You know about how the IPCC used undergraduate students "opinions" as fact in their reports... Or of the IPCC using climbing magazine articles as proof of ice cap melting...
The closest article they have is http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2010-02-10-un-climate-report_N.htm
which covers a few of the things, but softballs them in such a way as to diminish their impact. Very faulty reporting, showing bias and elimination of major facts, (like the two I put above, concerning students papers, and climbing magazines)...
NO mention of the 15 years of non warming... Or the fact that the lead "scientist" at IPCC thought about committing suicide for his many crimes against science...
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:07pm |
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Oh wait... I was wrong, I had no idea that global warming had caused all 100 of these things...
I change my position. I am now a advocate of man made global warming. IT IS REAL!
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:08pm |
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wouldnt a simple edit work as well as 3 post? apperently no one cares.
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:17pm |
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I really don't care about whatever you are talking about, but WHAT??
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FreeEnterprise
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:30pm |
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If the "news" chooses what to report and what to ignore. Wouldn't that classify as restricting free speech?...
Logically...
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:34pm |
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No...
Let me just revert to what I normally would have said in my first post: Are you retarded? |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:36pm |
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mind where you step Jmac, you might trip over his soap box.
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Innocence proves nothing
FUAC!!!!! |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:45pm |
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Do you recall Enos' post a while back? You're dangerously close to flaming. Don't like it, don't respond. |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:46pm |
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Down with your pesky facts FE! Climate change is happening and is
caused by man because I believe it to be that way. I will now ignore
the articles you linked and post something nitpicky about your post that is essentially unrelated to the topic at hand: In the last line of the second paragraph you started a sentence with "and" and didn't even capitalize it! Really, how do you expect us to take you seriously?
On a serious note, the alternate universe FE is correct; this is not a free speech issue. The first amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Congress has made no law limiting what the newspapers/media print; they have chosen to do so themselves for either business or political reasons. While this may be a journalistic integrity issue, it is not a free speech issue. |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:48pm |
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Fail interpretation of the first amendment is fail. Constitutional freedoms generally protect against laws and legally enforceable policies, which by necessity must be actions of the state. It's not relevant to publishing decisions by private corporations, with the exceptions of instances such as defamation, fair comment, and state mandated censorship. The principle of 'freedom of speech' is a negative right; that is to say, a freedom. It asserts a freedom that an individual has that the state, as a general rule, cannot infringe on. It does not imply a positive right, or an entitlement, that is to say, something the state must provide. The state cannot censure a newspaper for publishing information either for or against anthropogenic global warning. That is the essence of freedom of speech. It does not empower the state to compel media coverage of any particular issue or point of view. tl;dr- You suck more at your own constitution than a Canadian.
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:50pm |
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I care? |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:53pm |
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Ooooooo! He's so tuff on the internetz. 
This made me chuckle as well. Edited by Mack - 15 February 2010 at 12:54pm |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:55pm |
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Does it have to be "printed" for the obvious problems to be seen?
Obviously the media is ignoring "certain" stories and pushing others...
While they aren't dumb enough to print in papers that they are biased and only advocating one world view...
Oh wait...
nevermind... Edited by FreeEnterprise - 15 February 2010 at 12:58pm |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:56pm |
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lol Maybe I am Mack, wanna fight? |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 12:57pm |
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Sure . . . as long as you promise not to slap, scratch or spit. |
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 1:00pm |
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Well that takes all the fun out of it.
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 1:01pm |
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<sigh> Fine, a little slapping is ok but I get to tell you where.
Most of those replying aren't saying it isn't a problem; they're saying it isn't a free speech issue. A point you seem to be studiously ignoring. Simplified version of argument: The 1st amendment says the government can't limit speech, it says nothing about the government being able to force the media to print the stories you want. Edited by Mack - 15 February 2010 at 1:09pm |
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At no point did I say that American media isn't deeply flawed. I think most here can recall the numerous times I've railed against the hyperpartisanization of the media, in fact. What I said is that it's not a free speech issue, and I'll take that farther to say that the Government has no business imposing restrictions on what should/should not be published, beyond justifiable concerns like libel, or news that is demonstrably false. So no, the idiocy of the news media is NOT a free speech issue. It's actually demonstrative of how strong free speech rights are, that the media is capable of being as awful as it is without official censure.
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Posted: 15 February 2010 at 1:22pm |
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^that
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