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    Posted: 22 August 2004 at 12:03pm
can you short stroke with an e blade
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Yes you can. Its hard but its possible.

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Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:


Yes you can. Its hard but its possible.
No it isnt.
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Originally posted by NiQ-Toto NiQ-Toto wrote:

Originally posted by Apu Apu wrote:


Yes you can. Its hard but its possible.
No it isnt.
Its possible. It wont happen but it is.
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Explain how it is possible...
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i couldnt explain it. i still dont know whats wrong with my cocker. think its the ball detent.
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Originally posted by stick_boy_2002 stick_boy_2002 wrote:

i couldnt explain it. i still dont know whats wrong with my cocker. think its the ball detent.

If its a 2004 Super stock vert feed then yes its the ball detent

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Originally posted by stick_boy_2002 stick_boy_2002 wrote:

i couldnt explain it. i still dont know whats wrong with my cocker. think its the ball detent.

and that has to do with this thread how?


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The EBlade could short stroke it, but it won't.
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Excuse my absence of knowledge on this section of paintball lingo....but could someone explain shortstroking......
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Originally posted by Squirrel Master Squirrel Master wrote:

Excuse my absence of knowledge on this section of paintball lingo....but could someone explain shortstroking......

crazy lingo..anyway i think its when you're trying to shoot fast on a stock cocker and you are moving your fingers fast trying to walk it and you hit the trigger so it doesnt fire all the way...and it makes like a weird fireing sound.....i think thats it, someone correct me if im wrong


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Originally posted by meteora meteora wrote:

Originally posted by Squirrel Master Squirrel Master wrote:

Excuse my absence of knowledge on this section of paintball lingo....but could someone explain shortstroking......

crazy lingo..anyway i think its when you're trying to shoot fast on a stock cocker and you are moving your fingers fast trying to walk it and you hit the trigger so it doesnt fire all the way...and it makes like a weird fireing sound.....i think thats it, someone correct me if im wrong

doesn't mater what cocker it is, as long as its mech, you can't "technically" walk a cocker. and yes, you hear the actuating sound, but it doesn't fire.


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Originally posted by VolrathDaFallen VolrathDaFallen wrote:

Originally posted by stick_boy_2002 stick_boy_2002 wrote:

i couldnt explain it. i still dont know whats wrong with my cocker. think its the ball detent.

If its a 2004 Super stock vert feed then yes its the ball detent



Is that a common probelm with superstocks?

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Originally posted by MetallicaESPa5 MetallicaESPa5 wrote:

Originally posted by meteora meteora wrote:

Originally posted by Squirrel Master Squirrel Master wrote:

Excuse my absence of knowledge on this section of paintball lingo....but could someone explain shortstroking......

crazy lingo..anyway i think its when you're trying to shoot fast on a stock cocker and you are moving your fingers fast trying to walk it and you hit the trigger so it doesnt fire all the way...and it makes like a weird fireing sound.....i think thats it, someone correct me if im wrong

doesn't mater what cocker it is, as long as its mech, you can't "technically" walk a cocker. and yes, you hear the actuating sound, but it doesn't fire.

I think I might have heard that on a friends gun....is it kinda like instead of the "Piff-vitt" sound, you get just a "Piff" sound....?

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Short stroking = When you dont pull or release the trigger all the way. If you dont pull it all the way, the gun will fire, but you may chop a ball, or the bolt ont go far back enough because the ram didnt get enough air from the 3 way/lpr.

If you dont release the trigger all the way, the ball will fire, you will load another ball, push that one into the breech, then load a secnd ball because the first one didnt fire and the bolt moved back again.


There is no way to short stroke an eblade, because it uses a solenoid instead of a standard three way, and once the trigger "eye" is broken, it will fire. There is no way to short stroke, even if you are in classic mode...
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so basickly the shorter the trigger pull the harder it is to short stroke

and do you think this a "hard to short stroke frame"  http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2131/

or http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2424/



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Originally posted by VolrathDaFallen VolrathDaFallen wrote:

Originally posted by stick_boy_2002 stick_boy_2002 wrote:

i couldnt explain it. i still dont know whats wrong with my cocker. think its the ball detent.


If its a 2004 Super stock vert feed then yes its the ball detent

What is this supposed to mean?
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so basickly the shorter the trigger pull the harder it is to short stroke

and do you think this a "hard to short stroke frame"  http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2131/

or http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2424/

 

what do you think

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Originally posted by vftactical vftactical wrote:

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so basickly the shorter the trigger pull the harder it is to short stroke


and do you think this a "hard to short stroke frame" http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2131/


or http://pbreview.com/products/reviews/2424/

They will both be just as easy to short stroke, and with a longer pull, it is not neccisarily going to short stroke a lot. It all depends on who is at the trigger and how they like their set up. If you have everything happen at the beginning of the pull, and take out all the extra pull making it short, you have just as much a chance of short stroking if everything happens at the beginning of the pull, but its a longer pull... Sorry if that didnt make sence...
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