Random thoughts-Anti-chop eye A-5

This is a "If WAS releases a new board for the A-5" thread.

If it's a break beam system it will be an excellent system for sure.  But.......If it's a reflective eye system your paint selection "CAN" be limited.  With WAS boards, you have an option for either reflective or non-reflective bolts. In non-reflective bolt mode(black bolt mode) dark paint (black or near black) cannot be used effectively because the eye is only detecting the paint, not the bolt and when coupled with an eye that reads at the bottom of the chamber it insures very accurate feeding and zero chops.  This is my preferred mode even though sample times are slower.  It's still blazing fast.

White bolt mode will detect a light colored (preferably white) as well as non-black paint which gives faster sample speeds but is prone to chopping because detecting the bolt gives a false reading of paint being ready and the bolt may chop a half chambered ball.  This mode will allow you to use any color paint.

If WAS comes out with the board it will be well worth it. 

the cyclone feed system is already anti chop. why would u need eyes??

well i guess if someone put a center feed on their a5 it would work but with the cyclone i dont really think it is worth it.

I think somethimes it is better to study how something works before coming up with a solution to a non existing problem....   just my take.

Yeah if you still had a cyclone and eyes, you still wouldnt be able to shoot very fast. This is because after 18bps, the cyclone becomes a blender which eyes wont prevent. The A-5 wont chop, but blend at high speeds.

I see where your going if you mean an A-5 without a cyclone.

I must be in the wrong business. I can't afford to shoot an entire day at 13-15 BPS let alone 17-18 BPS, and at the lower rate, I have yet to have a problem with my A-5 chopping balls. Excellent system. I can understand improving any part of the marker, to make it better, but efficiency would have been a better priority in my opinion.

cyclone = blender

nuf said

 

I guess ignorance is bliss, ehh Strider

Wow. The board will probably have eyes, since Tippmann pretty much contacted WAS of their own accord and mentioned they were producing the Custom Pro E. There will be features useless to the A-5, but useful for the Custom Pro E. Did everyone forget that Tippmann released a new gun?

As far as the Cyclone, no electro hopper can beat it. Sure, some might feed faster, but look at ALL of the hoppers, not just the Halo and Q-loader. The Cyclone beats the crap with 18 bps limit out of most of them. And for chopping, it wins. How do I know it wins? Easy- the A-5 doesn't need eyes or an anti-chop bolt (as long as your paint isn't crap) to not chop. Sure, if you try to use large bore paint and put it through a small bore barrel the front bolt is going to destroy paint. And if the paint you use is brittle and crappy it'll explode from the front bolt. Thats the catch- the Cyclone doesn't break paint, your front bolt explodes the paint it broke into the cyclone. The A-5 doesn't need eyes or ACS bolts. Only guns with bad design need a secondary design (bolt, eyes) and a tertiary design (hopper) to fix their screw-ups or neglegence. The A-5 has a Cyclone, part of the initial design of the gun.

Mayhaps certain people need to know something besides posting "My gunz da roxsorz, a5 and Cyclonez ar teh suxsorz!"

Edited by LordJovian

Cyclone's aren't perfect, that's for sure.  I ran an A-5 with LP and E-Grip, and I was burning through cyclones every 3-4 times I played. It would wear down and not turn to feed when it had paint in it.  The cheap ratchets kept wearing out on me, and I was send my cyclon in to be fixed about once a month.  That got old really fast, because when it goes it's gone, and your days over.  Also, I usually would rip long strings at the 15 bps cap, and I would get about 5 chops per case roughly.  And in the winter, the cyclone is just way to hard on paint, then it is the definaition of a blender.  I wish I still had the old pics on my comp of my cyclone absolutly dousched in broken paint.

I've never seen a cyclone chop.  My friend has the A-5 with the r/t and another has the e-grip.  The only time i've seen a A-5 chop paint was with paint so weak that dropping it from 5 inches off the ground made it break.  And the only reason it broke in the A-5 was breaking in the barrel.  As for eyes?  isn't that a waste of money for the A-5.  But what about the 98C?