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Linus
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Topic: Gallup Pro-life/choicePosted: 18 May 2009 at 7:29pm |
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How do you explain this?
Big jump in the span of 1 year... |
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agentwhale007
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Posted: 18 May 2009 at 7:42pm |
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My -best- guess, without looking at any of the raw polling data and doing any calculations (Which I learned to do this year, excitingly enough) I think it MIGHT be due to the drop in those who identify themselves as conservative and more people who consider themselves to be moderate.
Which makes more sense if you look at this: ![]() ...Which splits it up into the sections. As you can see, the two cross at the end of the chart. Your chart is a magnified version of the end of mine, without the top line. The top line shows the moderate stance, I believe. Maybe. I could be wrong. Edited by agentwhale007 - 18 May 2009 at 7:44pm |
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Posted: 18 May 2009 at 7:49pm |
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All of FE's logical arguments and valid points must be paying off.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 9:51am |
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Abortion is murder...
But, it is interesting to me that many of the people that believe waterboarding is torture, condone abortion...
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 10:43am |
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Waterboarding isn't the same as abortion. I don't know why that would be interesting to you.
I find it interesting that people are so against abortion though. |
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Que pasa?
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 10:53am |
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What do you think about the right of parents to refuse medical treatment for their kids? |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 12:59pm |
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Also, I would consider myself pro-life, but also pro-choice. Think about it.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:06pm |
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Very respectable. |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:20pm |
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Abortion is sick and wrong. you know how they do that crap? they flip the baby around, so the head is still in the womb, they stick a needle in the baby's neck, at the base of the skull and in the spinal cord, and suck the spinal fluid right out of the baby. If you still think abortion is right you must be one very sick individual.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:32pm |
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Haha. You're funny. |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:42pm |
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so if the baby is gonna be born with a serious defect that will leave it hospital ridden where it will most likely die in a few weeks, abortion is sick? i don't think so. the sick thing to do would be to birth it and have it suffer for its short lifetime. abortion isn't murder. the fetus has no feelings or any kind of idea of its own existence. therefore, it is not considered a human being |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:51pm |
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You know what is worse than that? When a child is born to a home that can't support it, or doesn't want it. Abortions aren't just because think a baby is inconvenient at the moment. And besides, the procedure doesn't change a thing for me, I'm still completely pro choice. |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:25pm |
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I couldn't find reference to the exact procedure described above, but will concur that late term abortions are barbaric at best IMO and think most people would find the them quite distasteful. They also represent less than 1% of abortions. The vast majority are completed during the first 8wks. Regardless of how repugnant you may find the procedure, I still feel that it comes down to the woman to do with her body as she chooses. With that said, I find it more hypocritical that we condone abortion on the grounds of personal freedom, yet make assisted suicide illegal.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:43pm |
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pro choice... but you need to make up your mind early...
if you dont do it in the first few months just have the kid and give it to someone who wants one. i dated a chick and a few months after we broke up found out she was 7 MONTHS pregnant... her mom was like "its hard to tell when you have an irregular period" that chick was fine for 28 days then bled for 3. i could set my damn watch to it. no way missing your period for 7 months is a surprise... |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:44pm |
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That's a different issue entirely though, just because you support one doesn't mean you HAVE to support the other. An abortion is an unborn, unaware, undeveloped, unconcious thing that is being removed. Assisted suicide is killing a fully (ideally) developed person. Now I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I think there are some situations that do have merit, such as being a quad.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:51pm |
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No, because both are still based on the idea of control over ones body. The fetus isn't a person, therefore it falls under jurisdiction, so to speak, of the women doing with "her body" as she deems fit. Assisted suicide is still someone doing with their body as they seem fit, but the government won't allow it. I am not saying you have to support either, simply pointing out the hypocrisy of allowing one and not the other. That's how I look at anyways. |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:53pm |
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But it's two different situations entirely.... One is not really related to the other.
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:53pm |
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Oh, please. That is the worst argument for pro choice...
I have a good friend who was almost aborted. His mom was raped, and she didn't want to have him...
He is a great guy, and has started a very successful company, and his mother loves him very much, and is super close to him still... And she can't believe she even considered killing him before he was born.
BTW. he looks just like the rapist who was convicted of multiple rapes and is in jail.
Even with the best of circumstances life is hard. Why is it so easy to kill a child in our world?
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:56pm |
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Posted: 19 May 2009 at 2:56pm |
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Because it's not a child. And yeah, some people turn out great, just like how some people with great parents can wind up stealing cars and smoking meth. You can't predict their life. And my argument for pro choice is NOT "if we dont, then their lives will suck" that was just an observation about potential situations. I'm pro choice because I believe the parents have the right to choose whether they have a child or not, and I don't see it as a big deal. Personally.
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