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    Posted: 21 March 2010 at 11:02am
Well, they vote on the legislation today.



I have just one question:


Why can't we just keep the insurance company regulations requiring them to take people with pre-existing conditions, and drop everything else? I'm sure everyone will support that, as opposed to the minority forcing their views like they are now, and it won't cost the government a dime.




PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.

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< Going to state capital to protest if it's passed.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

< Going to state capital to protest if it's passed.


You and I agree on something?!

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

< Going to state capital to protest if it's passed.


You and I agree on something?!


Not going to protest.  If it passes with a legitimate house vote, which is the current plan of the Dems, then it is the elected government representing the population.  If a majority of the citizenry ends up not liking it, then they should have voted more carefully in the last elections.

Am saving my energy up for taunting all the currently staunch Dems who will be denying ever being President Obama/Democratic supporters in a couple of years when everyone realizes how off the expense numbers were.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Am saving my energy up for taunting all the currently staunch Dems who will be denying ever being President Obama/Democratic supporters in a couple of years when everyone realizes how off the expense numbers were.


LOL.

Ah, spending money.  The only way to make sure everyone's on your side.
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HOPE! HOPE! OBAMA WILL FIX EVERYTHING!
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Originally posted by mod98commando mod98commando wrote:

Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

HOPE! HOPE! OBAMA WILL FIX EVERYTHING!


Don't forget CHANGE!


How can we forget that . . . it's what we'll have left to spend after he's done.
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Well, they vote on the legislation today.



I have just one question:


Why can't we just keep the insurance company regulations requiring them to take people with pre-existing conditions, and drop everything else? I'm sure everyone will support that, as opposed to the minority forcing their views like they are now, and it won't cost the government a dime.
Because that will make the heath insurance companies business model unsustainable. If they take on a ton of expensive clients without also adding a bunch of more paying, but cheaper, healthy clients they will go ass up quite quickly. Basically the young and healthy are subsidizing the genetically unlucky
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PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.
I have been saying since this stuff started that it is insurance reform, not health care itself. This is mostly because congress doesn't have the balls to regulate factors that contribute to increasing costs such as fee for care. Why are you just now, finally, pointing this out. This is why it will not be the end of the world. This will not be the gov making decisions for you as many have claimed, it just controls how insurance companies operate.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Well, they vote on the legislation today.



I have just one question:


Why can't we just keep the insurance company regulations requiring them to take people with pre-existing conditions, and drop everything else? I'm sure everyone will support that, as opposed to the minority forcing their views like they are now, and it won't cost the government a dime.
Because that will make the heath insurance companies business model unsustainable. If they take on a ton of expensive clients without also adding a bunch of more paying, but cheaper, healthy clients they will go ass up quite quickly. Basically the young and healthy are subsidizing the genetically unlucky
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PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.
I have been saying since this stuff started that it is insurance reform, not health care itself. This is mostly because congress doesn't have the balls to regulate factors that contribute to increasing costs such as fee for care. Why are you just now, finally, pointing this out. This is why it will not be the end of the world. This will not be the gov making decisions for you as many have claimed, it just controls how insurance companies operate.

What about compelling people to purchase insurance drastically more expensive than they currently have? I know one person who currently pays $50 per month, with a $1200 'deducitble'. He now faces thousands of dollars a year in premiums, and if he can't afford it, his policy is cancelled, and fines are levied in the form of taxes. If he doesn't pay that, he's up on felony tax evasion. His current insurance suits his needs and wants and is in no way deficient. This doesn't seem just.
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

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PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.
I have been saying since this stuff started that it is insurance reform, not health care itself. Why are you just now, finally, pointing this out.

Try again?

http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=183541&PN=2

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

God, can we all quit calling this "health care reform"? This has nothing to do with reforming the health care practice. This is health care insurance reform.






Sorry, but forcing someone in to a contract to where they have to spend money with no say themselves, is just wrong. On top of that, FINING them for not wanting to partake in such a contract is even more wrong.

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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

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PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.
I have been saying since this stuff started that it is insurance reform, not health care itself. Why are you just now, finally, pointing this out.

Try again?
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

God, can we all quit calling this "health care reform"? This has nothing to do with reforming the health care practice. This is health care insurance reform.
Alright you got me there. Point, linus.





Sorry, but forcing someone in to a contract to where they have to spend money with no say themselves, is just wrong. On top of that, FINING them for not wanting to partake in such a contract is even more wrong.

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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It may not be health care reform, but it may very well impact health care down the road.
 
I'm already in disgust at the mass widespread abuse of state and federal health care programs, so my I'm only slightly outraged by what I know about this bill.
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Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

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PS-- Why are we still calling it health care reform? It's not changing a thing about healthcare, it's changing how it's paid for... talk about purposeful misleading.
I have been saying since this stuff started that it is insurance reform, not health care itself. Why are you just now, finally, pointing this out.

Try again?
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Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

God, can we all quit calling this "health care reform"? This has nothing to do with reforming the health care practice. This is health care insurance reform.
Alright you got me there. Point, linus.





Sorry, but forcing someone in to a contract to where they have to spend money with no say themselves, is just wrong. On top of that, FINING them for not wanting to partake in such a contract is even more wrong.



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