M-16 replacement

Have all of you heard about the XM-8, its supposed to be the replacement to the M-16 and M-4. I don’t Know to much about it but its supposed to be pretty good, I just wish it was not German made, nothing against Germany, I’m a quarter German, but because I am 100% American I would rather see our troops carrying American made weapons. So if any of you has info on the XM-8 I would like to see it. Thanks.

Reb Cpl wrote: All I know is that its the 'XM-8' right now because its still in its experimental stages. Final designation will be the 'M-8' If its the same firearm that I'm thinking of, it doesnt matter where it was made, its a beast of a gun. I could be wrong, but I think its capable of firing 20mm shells as well as a regular rifle round. Don't quote me on that, I remember seeing something on 'Mail Call' about that.

Ya I saw that too, that’s not the same gun, the XM-8 is smaller and lighter and is just a regular assault riffle. Other than that and what it looks like I don’t know anything else, and I do agree with you that it does not matter where a gun is from, only how it performs, its just I would prefer to see  the standard issue riffle our troops carry stamped with that good old “Made in U.S.A.” stamp, the last foreign made standard issue riffle our troops carried was the krag-Jorgenson riffle during the Spanish American war.

I had read an article about this in Popular Mechanics (one of the best magazines out there). It is a really cool looking gun, very futuristic I think. Looks like something you'd see in HALO. I found an article here on it.

It's manufactured by H&K and you can find pics of it by going to their website. H&K is one of the best manufacturing companies around, better than anything American made, at least I won't discriminate against it.

right now I think that the military is working on a pop-in upgrade for the ar15/m16. It will allow the rifle to fire a larger round increasing the stopping power of the weapon. Not that tyhe m16 doesn't have stoppin' power.   That ol' .223 round is pretty nasty.

I also think that Colt is the one responsible for the design (don't quote me on that).

The rifle you saw on Mail call is capable of firing a small rocket(I think). That rifle is way too small to fire a 20mm round. That would kill whoever fired it.

Hve you guys ever seen a 20mm anti tank rifle. Those suckers are HUGE!

Later

rancidpnk13 wrote: yeah, everyone likes to have it american made...which makes sense. but i dont hear SWAT teams complaining about using the Mp5...

Most SWAT units have traded in their MP5's for M4's, mainly because MP5's do not have the distance (from a 9mm or 10mm round) then the M4's .223 round. However, for close combat, the M1 Shotgun and MP5 combo are awesome.

H&K XM-8's are very easy to work, mainly because H&K are simple manufacturers. Also, the average M16 is ridiculous in cost and I highly doubt the M8 would be much more expensive.

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Is it Colt that makes that? I was wondering. That thing is absolutely awesome.


I would not like to see the army go to h&k for thier arms.

There are alot of great firearm manufacturers in the U.S.

Plus, the grunts need a good simple assault weapon, not some big compicated thing.

^ I believe so. They aren't advertising it on the Colt website, though. It's still in the early stages, I guess, but the U.S. Battle Lab approved it.

i want an Ion sooo bad...im getting one next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the major companies that makes M4s and M16s and I think a large number of the rest of the Army's rifles is in my town, or at least used to be. I think the military division moved elsewhere, but it's headquartered here.

And whoever said the 20mm thing was too big... you're wrong, it is 20mm. That's less than an inch across.