born ghey?

So disclaimer, i dont hate homosexuals, but i was talking with a friend of mine's brother who claims he was born homosexual.  So im wondering if anybody has enough experience with biology to prove this either right or wrong.  Again, i dont hate homos, anything like that, im just trying to prove that it was his choice rather than he was born that way.

So im talking with my friend's brother and he claims that he was born homosexual.  I think that he's using that as an excuse.  So i shoot back at him with this.  Being born homosexual would mean that there has to be a "ghey" gene.  Now if this is true, it would have to be a recessive trait, if you were using something like a punnent square.  And if a homosexual man/woman had sex with a member of the opposite sex, then child would be heterozygous for the ghey gene (one dominant and one recessive allele).  But that would be impossible as said parent wouldn't be homosexual if he or she was having a child with a member of the opposite sex. 

Possible? Discuss.

I've seen some pretty strong evidence that it's genetic....

Predatorr wrote: So disclaimer, i dont hate homosexuals, but i was talking with a friend of mine's brother who claims he was born homosexual.  So im wondering if anybody has enough experience with biology to prove this either right or wrong.  Again, i dont hate homos, anything like that, im just trying to prove that it was his choice rather than he was born that way. So im talking with my friend's brother and he claims that he was born homosexual.  I think that he's using that as an excuse.  So i shoot back at him with this.  Being born homosexual would mean that there has to be a "ghey" gene.  Now if this is true, it would have to be a recessive trait, if you were using something like a punnent square.  And if a homosexual man/woman had sex with a member of the opposite sex, then child would be heterozygous for the ghey gene (one dominant and one recessive allele).  But that would be impossible as said parent wouldn't be homosexual if he or she was having a child with a member of the opposite sex.  Possible? Discuss.

well, by your logic, then your friend and his brother both carry the "ghey" gene, but your friend's "str8" gene is dominant over the recessive "ghey" gene, while your friend's brother has two recessive "ghey" genes, which is why he is homosexual(remember, when you have a dominant gene and recessive gene, the dominant gene always shows). now, perhaps your friend marries a woman who also has a dominant "str8" gene and a recessive "ghey" gene. then, if they have 4 children, one will be homosexual. see how it can be passed down?

it's similar to this scenerio:
i work at a pet store where we have two burmese pythons. one is normal, and the other is albino. when we breed them, ALL the offspring come out looking normal, because the normal gene is dominant over the albino gene, but yet, all of the offspring carry the albino gene. so if any of the offspring breed with an albino, or breed with another burmese python that carries the albino gene, a portion of those offspring will display the albino gene.

You are all idiots.

I still remember when I was five when I chose to be a straight male.

Wouldn't that be, I dunno, contradictive?

I don't think it's the actual "OMG GHEY!!1!" gene, but maybe a gene that causes a hormone imbalance, making members of one sex pick up on the pheromones of the same sex. As I said earlier.

Of course, there is the chance that it is a choice and they are looking for an excuse...

Edited by DeTrevni - 20 August 2006 at 2:14pm

Hmm. You speak a good point sir. What if homosexuality is different than bisexuality. Perhaps homosexuality is genetic, but bisexuality is emotional. Maybe said bi is okay with the opposite sex, but found something appealing in the same sex.

I'm straight, so I can't venture into the mind of a homosexual or a bisexual, so I'm running on only possibilities.

Edit: Where's Clark?

Edited by DeTrevni - 20 August 2006 at 2:21pm

i chose to be straight, but i was considering it for a while

anyone who says they were born homosexual and cant help it are complete and total idiots

Brihard.