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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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I decided that I cannot afford to spend too much money
on my paintball gun because I'm going off to college soon, but I really
want an RT system for my gun and a drop forward because the gun is too
long already. So, I went off to Lowes set on making a system for
less than $10... This is what I came up with.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As you can see, it is a very simple design. It uses a 1/2" copper pipe piece with two endcaps. One endcap is drilled to accomidate the plunger. The other is drilled to accomidate the fitting. The fittings are from the irrigation section of lowes where they have grass watering stuff. I used a T fitting in that one section so I could thread a bolt in there to control the airflow to the piston and so I could shut if off if I wanted to. The tube is 8 cents a foot in the plumbing section. The 1/2" end caps I used fit perfectly in the little slot in the handle, so I didnt need to reshape them or anything. The plunger is a piece of rubber I found bolted to an aluminum stud post I got in the lowes hardware section. I figured aluminum was better because it is lighter and can probably reciprocate faster. Instead of using the stock spring to reset the trigger, I put a very light pushing spring inside the piston to keep the piston against the trigger and to reset it if the piston is turned off. I do need to get a double finger trigger now because the trigger guard interferes with the movement of the piston. When this is all done, I should be able to walk the trigger pretty quickly. I also made myself a little drop forward out of some plastic I bought on ebay a while ago. Basically, I cut out the shape with a jig saw and filed it down, then sanded it and put it over the stove a little bit to get it smoother. ![]() ![]() ![]() As you can see, it balances right on the trigger guard. I took those pics 2 days ago, since then the bolts have been fixed and nuts have been integrated into the drop forward. It took a little modding, but I'm pretty happy with the results. If you would like a more detailed picture of something on the system, I can do it for you. Enjoy ![]() Edited by killernoodle |
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TippyFreaK03 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 November 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1126 |
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id like to see a video if that really does work. nice work
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maroon out ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Not "moron" - Geez! Joined: 10 January 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1681 |
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Awesome idea on the R/T.
Now I'm gonna have to make one. ![]() Edited by maroon out |
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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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I can, see that T fitting on the side? I threaded a bolt in there
so I can adjust the amount of air and shut if off if someone doesnt
want me using it.
It works great, but I dont know about the video. Maybe I can take one with my dad's digital camera. I cant do anything good yet without a double finger trigger. |
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maroon out ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Not "moron" - Geez! Joined: 10 January 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1681 |
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Yeah my bad, I didn't see that the first time I read it.
I re-edited my post. |
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Barn ![]() Member ![]() ![]() My barn door is open Joined: 01 January 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 75 |
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nice
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Do You like It??
...I Love It |
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-=Headwound=- ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Strike 2 - Watch the language. Joined: 04 January 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 341 |
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I thought I had seen all the crazy home mods on the forum but I guess I was wrong! That is really something killernoodle. How fast does your Response trigger fire? P.S. Great Mod , All you have to make now is an Electric Hopper! |
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bowers182 ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Strike 1 - S-Bomb (F21) Joined: 28 May 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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was it that hard to do?? i think i might have to make one for my a-5 but it might be a little trickeyer.
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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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No, actually it was quite easy. Basically, if you have a little
patience and $10 you can do this mod, it doesnt require any special
tools besides a drill and possibly a dremel.
I'll write a how-to guide on the forums either sometime today or maybe tomorrow. |
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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Ok, a lot of people have been pming me about making the RT guide, but I
have yet to do so because I havent worked out the bugs yet. Basically,
I dont have a fresh tank to test it on. The tanks that I have
with me are all drained and it will be a while before I can get them
all filled. With the current tanks, I can feel the RT working but
there is no "sweet spot" that I can find. I believe this problem
is due to the fact that all my tanks are less than 1/4 full. Once
I have the tanks filled and all of the problems worked out, I'll put up
a guide. Until then, you'll just have to enjoy the pics.
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Give this kid a star
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Jackal14 ![]() Member ![]() Strike 1 - F-Bomb 10/25 Joined: 17 August 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 557 |
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amazing.... i wish i could do that stuff on my own.. and have it look good... the best i could do will have scratchs, electric tap, and crazy glue :(
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<Ridd ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 22 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Killernoodle.. Does your copper "body" fit inside the receivers correctly? What I mean does your plunger goes back and forth straight? If not, I will go to the machine shop and fab you one if you need it, just give me the spec's... The flow control tubing needs to be cleaned up some..but what you did is nicely done... I am quite impressed! |
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meteora ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 December 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1892 |
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lol kicken chicken man thats awesome!!!
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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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The copper pipe fits in the reciever PERFECTLY. I couldnt have
made it fit better WITH a lathe :D. I fixed the tubing so now it
is tight, but you will need to take a dremel with a grinding wheel (the
cylinder one, very small diameter) to the little plunger guide so that
it slides freely. Yes, the entire system feels solid, and I can feel
the RT working its magic (kinda), but my tanks are so drained that I'm
maxing 180fps with the adjustment screw all the way out, so it is about
time to fill the tanks. My friend has a CO2 filling station at
his house, but no CO2, so it may take a while.
Here is my most recent pic, taken today. ![]() Edited by killernoodle |
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evil-98 ![]() Gold Member ![]() evil 98 pwnz joo! Joined: 05 November 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2833 |
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looking good. id love to see a vid |
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EFF® ![]() Member ![]() Joined: 22 June 2004 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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There has to be a 90° fitting going into the power tube/valve assembly (I think the tapped hole is #6-32, but I'm not sure). Also the flow control line going into the brass tubing: what's keeping the tubing from falling out as the pressure gets higher? The piston thing gotta move freely inside the brass tubing...not much pressure needs to push the piston out, but also beware that no c02/air should escape PAST the piston as well (is the piston is positioned straight of course). Just curious, but overall its a nice job. BTW, this is <Ridd..I'm on my son's computer but too tired to log him off and log me in..
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killernoodle ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 June 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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The power tube assembly is stock, it just has a 90 degree fitting
epoxied into a hole I drilled into it. Nothing keeps the tube on
but friction (and plastic fittings and vinyl tubes are super hard to
take apart. The piston is sealed by a rubber bushing I bought at
lowes and trimmed to fit. There is a little air that escapes off
the sides of the piston, but not enough to cause any loss of
power. If there was a super airtight fit between the piston and
the walls, the piston would be sticky and not work well. I'll post pics
of the build process when I make one for my brother.
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evil_fingers ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Strike 1 - Inappropriate sig Joined: 27 March 2004 Location: Frisco Nor Cal Status: Offline Points: 7224 |
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Thats the best mod Ive seen on a 98c and fer 10 bucks, man...can I say ghetto fabulous.
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Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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maroon out ![]() Member ![]() ![]() Not "moron" - Geez! Joined: 10 January 2003 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1681 |
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What exactly did you make the plunger out of?
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