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[Deadeye]
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Topic: Response TriggerPosted: 04 August 2004 at 5:58pm |
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My friend bought a response trigger for his a5 today... We installed it, and tested it out... We noticed a few things... First off, it DID increase the rate of fire... slightly... It also made the gun extremely cold and icy... Is that frost normal? Also, is there any way to make the response trigger shoot just by holding the trigger and having it bounce back? It wasn't working very well.. We tried applying different kinds of pressure to the trigger... I just recommended trying it with a pen spring instead of the normal trigger spring. I was going to get a response trigger for my 98 custom, but this is starting to change my opinions on it. Thank you
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Univern72
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 7:57pm |
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I don't have a response trigger, but I'm pretty sure there's a way to adjust how much the response trigger puts the trigger back so that you can set it so you can bounce the trigger. Assuming you're using CO2, it's normal for the gun to get cold, especially at high rates of fire. CO2 is cold. I'd say mess with his response trigger more before you decide whether or not to get one yourself.
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jaked588
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 8:02pm |
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use the little scre on the big fitting and back it out all the way the spring changing wont do anything |
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sugarfree
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 8:12pm |
^^Ya you have to tweak the r-t to get it shooting how you want it to. |
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 8:43pm |
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yea u have to find the hot spot where it works just right
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[Deadeye]
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 8:44pm |
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We screwed the screw in and out in many positions, It changes how much the trigger bounces back, But we were just wondering shouldnt it just keep firing if you hold it down?
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 9:05pm |
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yes it should but you have to hold it at a certan pressure also you should get the r-t i love mine. Edited by Die-Trying |
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 10:29pm |
The R/T is very picky on how you use it. Using too much pressure will cause the gun to only fire once, using too little will also cause the gun to only fire once. You need to first adjust the air flow to the R/T, then you need to practice, practice, practice sweet spotting it. Some ppl think double triggers help, I use one on mine and it works great. EDIT: BTW, the more air flow to the RT, the slower it will shoot, but the easier it will be to sweet spot. The less air flow to the RT, the faster it will shoot and it will become harder to sweet spot. I have mine set at about 12bps, kinda slow, but easier to sweet spot. Edited by FyreFly |
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:40pm |
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ive got an rt and mine does that too but only when u fire a lot because the constant co2 going through the hose doesnt give it any chance to warm up and it freezes it up. so when u see the hose freezing up just give it a few seconds to defrost then u can start shooting again. and yes, if u hold down the trigger it should reset it and start shooting automatic. but sometimes it wont when ur tanks low on air or when u hold the trigger too tight. but if this isnt the case than either try adjusting the rt or replacing the stock trigger spring. Edited by Purrrsian |
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:44pm |
What kind of hose do you have? |
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Posted: 04 August 2004 at 11:52pm |
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when u buy a response trigger it comes with a hose that supplies the piston that pushes ur trigger up to the valve with air Edited by Purrrsian |
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 2:14am |
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like what they all said the r/t needs to be sweet spotted. just adjust the r/t slowly tell you get it where you want. you don't want to turn it fast just in case you do miss the sweetspot your looking for. and yes the gun getting cold is normal because the co2 is traveling through your gun so much and so fast. And you can tell me if i am wrong but a a5 is capped at somewhere around 15bps and 12bps isn't that slow for it than thats almost maxed out.
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 7:30am |
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Like I tell everyone who asks (and have now posted in the Uber FAQ) before you get firepower upgrades (if you use CO2) you want an expansion chamber or stabilizer first. The gun is becoming an ice cube because liquid CO2 is getting into the gun and freezing the beejesus out of it.
Another thing I tell everyone (mainly A-5 owners) that I suggest the E-grip over the R/T due to its ease of use- no, the R/T doesn't full auto when you hold it down, you have to put your finger in a certain position with the right pressure. Most people new at these have a strong tendancy to be unable to do this on the field when paint flies over their heads (they get too panicked/ excited), although that person may be able to sweet spot it at the target range. The E-grip for the A-5 is 20 times easier- that's the one where you hold the trigger down for full auto. Since you have a 98C, you're only easier full-auto option is the E-bolt, which is much pricier than the E-grip. If you have the moeny, do it, otherwise you're stuck with a R/T. |
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 7:48am |
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wouldnt your fingers get cold having freezing co2 blowing at them every time you fire?
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 9:22am |
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if you find your sweet spot and hold the trigger to that pressure, doesnt it go full auto?
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[Deadeye]
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 10:40am |
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not really... one ball per trigger pull, it just bounces back.... also, would i get the freezing gun problem since i use a remote?
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 10:47am |
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one more thing it depends on the weather if its too cold out side and you contiunously shoot the C02 will become liquid. like lord jovian said an expansion chamber will fix this problem. so next time you use full auto all the time make sure its not at all cold out. ive seen this happen in anywere from 0 F- 70 F |
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Posted: 05 August 2004 at 4:43pm |
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You have to tweak it to make it perfect. Some places wont let you use a response trigger in tournaments, keep that in mind. |
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Posted: 08 August 2004 at 1:54am |
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just tweak it so it is just right. your buddy should have got a e-grip and you should get a e-bolt, if you have the money.
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Posted: 08 August 2004 at 2:14am |
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if he wants to go into tournies than the e grip aint good either sicne they have a bad habbit of dbounce.you can't really just full auto with it because its very hard. you get alot of brust though outta it. i would stick with the r/t and then just get a x chamber or hp. but you just have to play with it to get it where u want.
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