Abortion?

I got a laugh out of it

I hear abortions tickle

Hades wrote: I like how The Passion is being 'rerelease' in the theaters. What a scam, this move is purely for profit. They reshow it close to Easter with less of the violence so that every Christian can go spend their money re-watching it. Do this every year, the profits will never stop. I wish I had thought of such a scam.

A scam? People were afraid to watch it because of the violence. Re-releasing it for Easter is no more a scam than Easter pageants in churches across the world. It's just more public and better-funded.

Yes, Mel Gibson made a lot of money off of this, but that doesn't mean his motives are corrupt. I think he did the original and the re-release out of personal conviction.

And I also really doubt that it's all Christians re-watching it. Most that I know either bought the DVD or are never watching it again.

To Dune: I can take religion jokes, just not really offensive ones. Calling Jesus' death a happy event (not the resurrection, just the death itself) isn't funny to me. I can take tons of religious humor (at about a Family Guy level), but that crosses the line for most people I know. I can take a joke, just not that one.

To each his own. You're offended by my joke, while I'm offended by religion's lies. Sorry if it bugged you, but I care as much about religion as you do for athiests. It's funny to me and others.

I really don't think he was going out his way to make people mad, just making a joke in poor taste that got everybodies panties in a wad.

I swear, religious people can't really take any sort of disrespect....they act like they are owed more common courtesy than the average heathen.

It's okay for all these religious people to tella non-believer they're going to hell, but make a little joke about the death of Christ and you get a bunch of Bible-toters jumping on your hump.

^Damn, Badsmitty really does keep you nice and drugged-up!

I gotta start hanging out with that guy.....

The fact that it does cause such an uproar, while in poor taste, is hilarious because it shouldn't. If you spend all your time being respectful, while still being told "have fun in hell," then I deserve a little time to lash back. I don't take things personally, because they are a difference in belief systems, so this shouldn't be taken personally either.

^Exactly.

For some reason I shouldn't be offended by being told I have no faith and am going to hell, while I can't criticize some dude for believing a chick got knocked-up without being penetrated and her miraculous son rose from the dead.

And I'm the one whose weird/wrong!

Oh well, smoke another one I guess.

Back to abortion for the moment...

Lets meet "Laurie." Laurie's father was a sexual predator.

     "Starting from when she was nine(later on, Laurie remembered abuse from when she was much younger), Laurie's father had forced her to have sex with him. She wasnt the first daughter he'd done this to. He'd raped his oldest daughter, Mary, until she was in her midteens.... There were six children all together, two brother, four sisters. Another sister Florrie, was retarted. After the father moved on from raping the oldest sister, Mary, and whenever the father wasnt raping Laurie, he was raping Florrie instead... All those years, he never stopped raping and sodomizing Laurie. Laurie was 31 years old now, and it was still happening..."
     Over the course of 30 years, Laurie had become pregnant by her father twice and had to have two abortions. "Laurie's father refused to allow her to use any birth control devices when he raped her. When he impregnated her, she had an abortion. She was a nurse. She knew the medical consequences for incest babies.     
     "After the abortion, Laurie hid from her father the birth contol pills she been taking against medical advice. She was one of those women for whom the pill was dangerous. To Laurie it was the lesser risk. Laurie lost the medical gamble... before her 13th birthday she had a stroke. While she was recovering, her father was happier with her than he had ever been. He took care of her. She was too weak to fight him in any way. To him it seemed like she'd completely given in. Later he told her that he was sorry she had recovered."
     "After she regained her strengh, Laurie's father impregnated her again, deliberately. He tracked her cycle. He chose the most likely time for her to get pregnant and insisted on repeated sex. She had a second abortion."
    "Laurie was raised Catholic. She never forgave herself for the abortions."

Taken from Sex Crimes, Alice Vachss. Random House, New York, 1993.

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Yeah, I thought it was a little odd the way it was worded in the book too. That was a direct quote from it.

I think it was a poor decision by the author to put that sentence there becuase it was confusing to me as well. What I think the author was trying to say that because Laurie became a nurse after the two abortions occured, she was still unable to forgive herself of the abortions even with the later knowledge of the risk of bearing children of an incest relationship.

My purpose for the clip from the book was to illustrate to those that oppose abortion even in the instance of rape or to the person that said that pregnancy rarely occurs from rape. This lady had it happen twice...

It might be a weak arguement but, if most agree that in Laurie's case abortion was okay, then abortions should be okay in other senerios as well.

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