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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:

With charges such as ethnic intimidation, criminal conspiracy and inciting a riot on the table, I get the feeling there is more to this story that what we are being told.

My thoughts exactly.

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Those crazy christains are at it again!
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"They were not prohibited from preaching," said Karen Brancheau, a lawyer for the District Attorney's Office. "A reasonable request was made to prevent a situation from becoming dangerous to their own safety as well as the safety of the participants."

Are homos that dangerous?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2005 at 9:42pm

The original article's source was all about "The Family." So the article is most likely incredibly subjective and witholding of facts. Some of those charges must be substantial enough to hold up in court; however, we shall see as the case goes on.

Everyone would go crazy if I posted an anti war article from the antiwar.com website.

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The Church people better win... Cause thats just messed up if they don't.  If the homosexuals can protest for rights, can't Christians protest agains that?  If they (including me) are against homosexuality, then why can't they stand up for what they believe in?  Weren't the protests against Bush hate crimes then?  Did they get 47 years? NO!  I think the Christians will win, and if they don't, I will be extremely mad, and others will too.  If they don't win, it shows you that the government has double standards (liek we already didn't know),  and that it is completely screwed up (like we didn't know that either).
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You can't claim that they deserve to win without knowing the entirity of the case. It's possible that the things they did were illegal (although I'm sure they do not speak for all christians). That's why the case must be pushed through the system first without scrutiny. If nothing was illegally performed, then they will be set free because they deserve to.
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GO PHILLY!

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Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

You can't claim that they deserve to win without knowing the entirity of the case. It's possible that the things they did were illegal (although I'm sure they do not speak for all christians). That's why the case must be pushed through the system first without scrutiny. If nothing was illegally performed, then they will be set free because they deserve to.


well, ive seen the story on many web pages, fox (not faux) news, and other stations (I hate the other stations, but I watched this on them)  and I think Ive got the  story
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Okay, well I'll just let the case take it's course. The DA will still have to decide on whether to continue, and I desperately try to stay away from television news. I usually try to stay with objective sources. I just can't see how they would be arrested or charged for a crime they didn't commit.
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Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:

Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

You can't claim that they deserve to win without knowing the entirity of the case. It's possible that the things they did were illegal (although I'm sure they do not speak for all christians). That's why the case must be pushed through the system first without scrutiny. If nothing was illegally performed, then they will be set free because they deserve to.


well, ive seen the story on many web pages, fox (not faux) news, and other stations (I hate the other stations, but I watched this on them)  and I think Ive got the  story

HAHAHAHA!!!! FOX NEWS HAHAHAHA. That station is so right wing, hmmm, and the right wing doesnt like homosexuals. Nice.

Im goin with TyKwan on this one.

:EDIT: keep in mind if I could have voted, I would have voted republican this time. So none of this your a democrat liberal pansy crap.



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Originally posted by WGP guy WGP guy wrote:


well, ive seen the story on many web pages, fox (not faux) news, and other stations (I hate the other stations, but I watched this on them)  and I think Ive got the  story

I've searched the web pretty thoroughly for this.  If you are basing your conclusion on the web and TV news (which is always superficial), then I can promise you that you do NOT have all the facts.

The system will play it out.

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Maybe this will teach some people that their message isnt always welcome. I know which side I am routing for.

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Originally posted by Juggernaut Juggernaut wrote:

Freedom of Speech is the most overused law suit I've ever heard.

 

I'll read the article now.

 

I just hate people playing the Freedom of Speech card, its almost as bad as the race card.

nice post, i totally agree.

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Originally posted by Hades Hades wrote:

Maybe this will teach some people that their message isnt always welcome. I know which side I am routing for.


Doesn't matter if it was welcome, if the story is correct, it was legal and they had every right to do what they did.

And even if they do get them on those charges, 47 years seems like a major sentence.

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We don't know whether they had every right to do what they did.  In fact, we don't even know what they did.

As to 47 years - that is almost certainly the maximum permitted sentence for each of the charged crimes combined, and does not consider sentencing guidelines or concurrent service.  There is no way they are getting 47 years.

If they are convicted - big IF - I wager they get no more than 90 days of prison, probably no prison at all.  My guess is a suspended sentence, some parole, and a stern warning from the judge.  Unless, of course, the facts that we do not know are particularly damning.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote borntopaint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2005 at 9:33am
im not gonna read any of that   im just posting in here beacuse i want to see the T&O  forum when i was the last person to post in all the threads   (ony 1 or 2 people on)


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How rude.

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hehehehe   its not like i have ne thing better to do   im homeschooled  lol


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Spamming is not kewl.  NOT KEWL!
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fine i give up   il go delete my spam posts but a bunch of those were legit posts


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