Freedom of Speech, yea right....

AdmiralSenn,

Please tell me how the protestors got the log out of their eyes so they could help their quarry with the mote in theirs.  After 39 years of reasonably steady church going I still haven't manage to dislodge mine. 

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Badsmitty wrote: AdmiralSenn, Please tell me how the protestors got the log out of their eyes so they could help their quarry with the mote in theirs. After 39 years of reasonably steady church going I still haven't manage to dislodge mine.

How does this apply to this situation? The protesters, as far as I can tell from what I know, didn't break the law or do anything out of line. All indications are that the homosexual response was far too extreme, although I can't prove that without having been there. Unless the sites stating that the protesters were being pushy and rude are correct, they didn't have 'a log in their eyes' except for the fact that nobody's perfect, which isn't even worth mentioning because that never goes away. And if they were being pushy and rude, then they were wrong and shouldn't have even been there.

Badsmitty wrote: Oh? I think that politically, the things I mentioned paid quite handsomely. God is now in the White House, we blew up a bunch of kids in Iraq this very morning by dropping a 500 pound bomb on the wrong house and only those who don't love our Heroes will protest it and marriage was protected from those filthy **edited**s by voting in constitutional amendments in 11 states.

That's not political correctness. God isn't in the White House, for one thing. George Bush may be following God's will, but I don't know that, and I wouldn't insist on it. And you're right, very few people will protest a single military mistake. I don't think it's a good thing that we killed some kids, but I can't imagine people protesting that single action. Plenty of people who are protesting are protesting because they love our heroes. I personally am of the opinion that people should protest all they want (it's in the Constitution for a reason), but the soldiers shouldn't know about it. Not sure how that would be accomplished, but that way nobody's repressed and the soldiers aren't demoralized.

Also, I really, really doubt that "filthy **edited**s" was in the mind of more than a few people who voted against homosexual marriage, excepting those nutcases that I frankly don't like either. From the people I've talked to, I feel pretty safe in saying that most Christians, at any rate, don't actually hate homosexuals, they just don't want them getting married. I'm one of them.

This issue really has nothing to do with anyone being politically correct or not. That's more to do with using words like mentally challenged for retarded people, or African-American for black people. This was about some protesters at a rally who may or may not have been within their rights or violating other's rights. I personally believe that they did nothing wrong and that the crowd response was unnecessary, but I'm not exactly objective on this issue and I don't have the footage referred to by their lawyer.

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You missed the mans point senn. The common response from the average joe when you say you disagree with the war in iraq, or the war in whatever next place we attack so dubya can look good is JOO R UNPATRIOTIC.

I had one dumbass actually accuse me of wanting our soldiers to die because i dont agree with iraq.

It's o.k.  It is difficult to make sarcasm register when you are typing it out. 

oldsoldier wrote: Why does this era of instant media find more reason to find fault with American influance in the area than the civic actions that has led to schools, water supplies, electricity and the things America takes for granted. Oh...the American media mantra..."If it bleeds, it leads", where a story on a new school or females attending school for the first time in Afganistan is so "ho-hum" and does not fit within the political agenda of the left.

    That's an excellent point. I think, in part at least, the media doesn't report on new schools, etc in Afghanistan, because in truth, nobody in America would care. We are so used to co-ed schools, that such a thing being on the news would be something of a joke to many of us.

    However, we are not used to bloodshed and death, and gobble those stories up with reckless abandon. We like to watch things that mystify us, instill a sense of pride/justice, or make us afraid.

    It's just how we've been raised. I've gone to school all my life, however, I have not been watching American soldiers accused of war crimes and shot at all of my life. I may not agree with what the media shows, but I can understand why they show what they do.


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Yeah, both of those "newly liberated countries" are sure loving us for being there and freeing them. Just like Korea (If there were protesters) and Vietnam, the protesters are seen as "unpatriotic." It should be the job of the media to report on the bad news and question the authority of the government, or else we'd be living on a state much like 1984.

It is also the responsibility of the mass news media to "report" the news, not create it. And try all I can not ONE positive story appears on the three stooges networks NBC,ABC,CBS, or the reliable often suspect CNN. Only the doom and gloom required to maintain the aire of what the media wants us to see to maintain the "fairness" and non-bias of thier reporting. How these people "hate" us for freeing them from oppression, and the "rebels" or "insurgents" are truely the protectors of thier society and culture.

Just a test, look thru all the major news sites, find me one positive story of US Troops in Iraq of Afganistan.

By the way statistically, you have a higher chance of dieing on americas highways than the troops have of dieing in the combat zone. Just a grin and giggle fact, by USDOT report 17,654 16-24 year olds (avg age US Soldier is 21) died in traffic accidents in 2003 (no stats for 04 yet) so which is worse.

Yep we should return to our land, put our heads between our legs go about our daily lives and feel safe because the UN will protect us.   

wait wait wait,what were the doin there in the first place,i mean isnt bein a lesbo kind there own freedom,so who r the to go and ruin their fun...

chaw

There is nothing wrong with being a soldier, it's not their decision to invade a country. However, showing the downside of war should never be complained about, because war is not accidental, at least here, it was created. Therefore, it should be the job to show the affects of it whatever they may be. It's true there is a lack of positive information coming from the wars, but then again, "liberating" a country and forcing a different style of government onto them will never win hearts and minds.