Freedom of Speech, yea right....

Yeah, because Iraq is directly linked to 9-11. Please try to put two and two together to make four, not five like our president thinks.

Just because they are fighting us in their country doesn't make them terrorists. Geurillas yes, terrorists, no.

Are you an imbosol? Blowing up their own people, beheading Christian women feeding the poor? And technically it isnt their country and they are the vast minority.

Guerillas, by definition fight for National Liberation by targeting a occupying army or force, "terrorists" indiscriminately target their own people, instilling terror in their own people.....sounds a lot like a terrorist to me....

oldsoldier wrote: Guerillas, by definition fight for National Liberation by targeting a occupying army or force, "terrorists" indiscriminately target their own people, instilling terror in their own people.....sounds a lot like a terrorist to me....

What about liberators who kill roughly 17,000 of your civilian men, women and children, pile your countrymen into nude pyramids, use your country as ground zero for a war against a noun and destroy whatever infrastructure your country had? 

All brought to you by the military that introduced nuclear weapons to incinerate two cities in 1945, who bombed the cities of two nations to rubble, who used unrestricted submarine warfare against a merchant fleet, and who in 1945 occupied and contaminated two cultures with western ideals of democracy and freedom. Guess our grandfathers were so wrong in getting involved, all would have worked out for the better if America just stayed neutral, our young refused to go and protested a unjust war, and our media saw FDR as the war monger he truely was, remmember he knew about Pearl Harbor before it happened, made clandestined Lend Lease deals with Russia and Great Britian in exchange for land leases and overseas resources, and he along with his freinds scrap iron, and oil companies profiteered off the early war years.

Sounds pretty rediculus doesn't it....now look in the mirror.



All I guess you can do is hope you win in 08, remmember the New England Liberal candidate was tried, so Hillary is not a good choice.

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My point is the media only selects the stories that further their aganda, they report on the soldiers deaths in almost gleefull fashion, yet gloss over the other deaths inflicted by the "insurgents".

oldsoldier wrote: As for the 5 in the Iraqi house, war is tragic, and those 3 american female aid workers and the two missionaries, along with the 12 Iraqis killed by the roadside bomb saturday did not even get a mention in the major media. We make a mistake, the "terrorists" intentionally kill, and we are portrayed as the badguy in our media.......whose side are the media actually on.

God forbid that someone with eyes that see, ears that hear, and a brain in the middle of it all could look at the daily news and surmise from the daily executions of Iraqi security and public officials, that things aren't going well in Iraq. It's just that liberal media blowing things out of proportion again.

smitty's bro wrote: oldsoldier wrote: As for the 5 in the Iraqi house, war is tragic, and those 3 american female aid workers and the two missionaries, along with the 12 Iraqis killed by the roadside bomb saturday did not even get a mention in the major media. We make a mistake, the "terrorists" intentionally kill, and we are portrayed as the badguy in our media.......whose side are the media actually on. God forbid that someone with eyes that see, ears that hear, and a brain in the middle of it all could look at the daily news and surmise from the daily executions of Iraqi security and public officials, that things aren't going well in Iraq. It's just that liberal media blowing things out of proportion again.

you havent seen anything, you havent heard anything... you have seen what they wanted you to see, and you heard what they wanted you to hear, its like what they said about the whole thing with the IRA in Ireland, "If you arent confused, you dont know whats going on" the only people who really have a clue, are our soldiers, not CNN, not NBC, or anything other pretty boy news anchor that thinks hes "a real journalist" because he spent a month in iraq, hes still soft, our boys are over there ground poundin it, they are making history, they are the history, they are helping a revolution take place

Everybody here is trying to paint in black and white only. Everything in our society is becoming a  shade of gray. The judicial system is so complex and convoluted that whoever has the best lawer wins. And any action taken(no matter what that is, can be backed up by some law) The rule of democracy and simple right and wrong common sense laws is mostly gone. Until we can get back to some semblance of laws that the common man can understand, I don't see this getting better. The media and especially our goverment have so many alterior motives for everything that I think it's getting to the point that alot of Americans don't trust the goverment any longer. The problem with the war in Iraq is that I don't think I am getting anything but spin from anyone. What are they using the war to draw our attention away from or skew our opinion on by giving us that warm patriotic feeling of togetherness. Goverments historically have always lived by the end justifies the means moto. That just my jaded take on the whole matter.