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Cedric
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Locking the borders would only cause more trouble.
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Dune
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Locking the boarders is arrogant and stupid. It's a way for people to say that we are stopping a problem that doesn't truly exist. You guys like to point fingers at outsiders, when it's the laziness, and greediness of our own citizens that causes many of these problems. I say we should allow anyone in that passess screening, make them citizens, and for anyone illegal, it should be mandatory to pay them the same wages as employers would pay legals.
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Bugg
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I live IN Mich, and our Candaian border at the bridge takes forever, but hey, thats better than letting bad people and drugs in |
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hwayhzrd
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Listen, I am not debating this with
you anymore, Dune. You are ignoring the points being made and
picking pieces to attack.
I have said that YES, the immigration process is flawed and needs fixed, but you refuse to acknowledge it. You are looking at this with emotion and not logic, and therefore do not seem amenable to having a prpber debate about this subject. Why don't you take a break, calm down, re-read the posts that have been presented, and try again. You are beating the same points into the ground and not addressing the counterpoints, so what is the point of continuing this? Your mind is made up, and reason is lost at this point. |
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Clark Kent
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We don't have high standards for citizenship, Bugg. There is no particular requirement for citizenship. What we have is a bureaucratic morass and a painfully slow process. That is completely different from having high standards. EDIT - boy I type slowly. Edited by Clark Kent |
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bluemunky42
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yeah it does. |
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Dune
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Clark's right. Sorry hwayzhrd, I do see your points. I'm trying to fight the "lock the boarders" idea. I do believe there is a way to screen potentially bad people, but locking the boarders is not a solution. |
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hwayhzrd
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Yup, I tend to agree ... not only is
the current process slow, tedious and difficult, it also is poorly
designed and carried out. The entire thing needs to be reworked.
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hwayhzrd
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I do NOT want the borders LOCKED ...
just better CONTROLLED. People that want to be a part of this
country are more than welcome, but let them do it LEGALLY.
When I say lock down the borders, I mean stop the hemmoraging of illegal aliens into the country, NOT stop the immigration process. |
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Bugg
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Nickodemus
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Glad I missed this one, seems redundant and nasty. If America is destroyed, I have enough cases of ammo to get whatever I need. |
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Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken!
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Nickodemus
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I recently heard an interview with a european family that was trying to get green cards. The snag was that their children need immunizations to get into our schools. The family's religion didn't allow for immunizations. Americans use the same excuse to get exemption status all the time with this same issue. Seperation of church and state. They where told that if they pushed this getting the green card, their application will be put into the denied stack. What do you all think of this? Stay home or go against your beliefs? |
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Nickodemus
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No offense to you home school kids.
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Think and give them all you have from the beginning, and never weaken!
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SeaWolf
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Let's hear it for the "edit button"! |
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sn0wie
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Yeah, I"m with him on this one. LIttle bit to liberal. |
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Nickodemus
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Your right, I forgot this is paintball - supposed to be a bunch of wealthy white kids. Where's the representation... must be their logic doesn't pull through.
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goodsmitty
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Your president, in order to win the election: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-05-10-ridge-ale rts_x.htm?csp=34 badsmitty had a whole thread on it. I'm a big proponent of the current administration's five step plan to destroy our country: 1. Encourage companies to send our jobs overseas. 2. Inflame and insult the world's largest religion, known for radicalism. 3. Torque-off nuclear powers by calling them the "axis of evil." 4. Turn a $trillions budget surplus in the largest deficit ever. 5. Take away the rights of anyone who doesn't walk lock-step with the program and throw them in prison. What would have happened if the indians had closed the borders 500 years ago? We'd all be back in our respective European countries. Edited by goodsmitty |
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Ejp414
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Okay, I agree with Dune, Clark, and Hway. I do not agree with Bugg, and
I do not think that I agree with SeaWolf, but I'm not sure.
What do you propose then, SeaWolf? Are you in favor of locking the borders outright? Do you oppose the idea of pluralism? Do you agree with the e-mail's speaker that there are intrinsic differences between races that cause, for example, Hispanics to suffer from higher drop-out rates? I would try and figure out your answers from your posts, but so far all you've done is say, "We're too liberal," and "Use the edit button." Oh, and you pasted some chain mail, too. |
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hwayhzrd
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I have to say, I am disappointed ... I expected better from you.
The discussion isn't going the way you want, so now you want to allude to snobbery and racism? Really ... that's not the way to change hearts and minds. Oh, well, it was bound to happen sooner or later in this thread. I never lived in a ghetto, I'm white, and I never entered a country illegally, so I could not POSSIBLY understand ... what was I thinking?? |
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Hades
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I dont have time to comment now but if you dont live in California how does this really even affect you? I dont see harm in illegals entering California. They are great for our economy.
I will get back to this later. Back to work for me. Edit: I havent had the time to read the whole first post of the thread, Yet. Edited by Hades |
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