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A-5Balla 
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 Topic: Sear roller??Posted: 20 July 2005 at 7:05pm |
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Ok how bout for all of us the manal trigger. We try to do all these
trigger mods with the springs and stops. it seems to help a lil biut
but is it a huge difference. from my experience its still pretty hard
to walk the trigger with only those. Not that you can realyl walk the
trigger with a manual trigger ne ways. (dont tell me to get a e-grip or
ne of that crap) Well the majority of the trigger wieght(how hard it is
to pull back) comes form the force of the bolt pushing aainst the sear
which makes it harder to pull it down.
i have an idea butno way to build it. what if we put a rolling bearing (a small one) on the sear. that way when you pull the trigger it is much easier for the sear to "roll" off of the bolt. Does anyone get what im saying ??? has anyone ever tried this?? what do you guys think of the idea just my idea! |
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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 7:36pm |
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That sounds pretty sweet but what if the bearing happens to fall out while ur shooting and running? then ur screwed in the middle of a firefight
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A-5Balla
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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:25pm |
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You wouldnt be screwed becasue if it felll out the sear spring would
jsut push the sear ack into place holding the bolt there still. see
what im saying?
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Posted: 20 July 2005 at 8:59pm |
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Could/should work. There are cocker triggers/sears that have similar mechanisms (search "roller sear" on froogle) - I have one, and it made a big difference on my cocker. If you can machine it, go for it. If not, ask Enos and maybe he'll make one for you... |
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 12:14am |
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Thanks dude yea i really want to make one or have one made can u post a pic of this i just wanna see.
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 12:17am |
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I mean can u show me a pic of this in ur gun! so is the bearing at the
end where the sear pushes on the bolt or the other end that hits the
trigger???
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 12:58am |
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Sorry but the cocker bolt and the Tippmann bolts are just way to different.
It wouldn;t work. |
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 1:09am |
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Yes, the cocker and Tippmann systems are different (a picture of my gun wouldn't be helpful for that reason), but I still think this has merit. It would cut down significantly on the friction as the sear comes down off the front of the bolt. Hard to say how much of a difference it would make until you try, but I think this would be good. Here is a picture of a roller sear for a cocker:
A cocker sear is backwards from a Tippmann sear - in the picture, the wheel actually rolls against the trigger. On your Tippmann roller sear, you would put the wheel on the side that goes against the bolt. I still like the idea. |
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 1:11am |
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yes exactly my idea i contacted enos shenk about building this i really
want to try this because if it worked it woudl cut down the friction a
lot. at least enough to make a noticable difference.
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Posted: 21 July 2005 at 2:25am |
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yes but if you used the roller part to hold back the bolt, then the
bolt would need a whole redesign. Currently the bolt has a very small
ledge for the sear to sit on. The cocker bolt has a whole post to rest
against.
Even if you put a post on the a-5 bolt. It would mean a really long trigger pull, but light. Once again not making it walkable. And your still working against the force of the springs. Its the force of the springs that makes the trigger pull so hard. Give your gun a little trigger job and you will be much happier. |
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Posted: 23 July 2005 at 6:01pm |
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Exactly what theguy said. If you put a roller on the bolt end, the
roller would need to be so small to function correctly that it would be
all but impossible to actually make.
Hell i dont know how they make the ones for cockers. |
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Posted: 25 July 2005 at 12:19am |
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what abiut remaching the bolt so that it where to fin in but still you
are going to have to find a small roller to even be be able to fit and
then maching out a small hole through rollarand the sear and while also its sturdy enought to support the inertia of the bolt.......
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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 1:27am |
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u guys have no faith
maybe!! it will work if u tried it...MAYBE!! dont blame me if u wreck ur gun though |
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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 1:17pm |
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I still think it would work but you will have to make a fitting for the bearing also.
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Posted: 06 August 2005 at 7:20pm |
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What if you put a notch in the bolt so that the roller fit in it, and had the roller only move a certain distance left or right?
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Posted: 07 August 2005 at 12:34am |
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then you are defeating yourself. The purpose of the mod is to make the
trigger lighter to walk. By this solution you would have a longer pull.
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