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entropy
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hades, humans judge each other. Looks are the deciding factor in many
cases. First impressions mean a lot. To me, someone dressing that way
is dressing like trash. I feel like I should dislike them. If I then
get to know the person, my opinion may change, but to say I ought not
judge someone based on how they dress is simply not possible.
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Hades
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Jim, It is racist/prejuduce because your defining the people with whom you label gangsta' or thug off their appearance without ever having gotten to know them personally or seen their actions. I am guessing you havent seen too much gang activity ever in your lifetime. Therefore to judge someone by their apperence alone is prejudious. Then to catagorize the people you deem gangsta into one big group and give it a negative label is racist.
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Jim Paint
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Yea, Shermans the one that marched, and I remember the total was strategy. It was pretty violent. |
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Roll Tide
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It wasn't Grant as much as Sherman. Sherman burned everything. And it's a strategy, Hit them before they hit you. I'm not saying it's right, but that's what they did. Edited by Roll Tide |
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Jim Paint
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Whale- you have yet to tell me why Im racist against blacks for not liking the Gangsters and thugs.
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Jim Paint
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We learned about it. Grant didn't like burning all the farms and such, but if he didn't the money would fund the south. And if the south IS all about just being independent, why did Lee take the offensive and march north? He may have been able to just defend the south, instead of trying to conquer the north. |
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Jim Paint
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Off topic-
Foodstamps really irk me. We cant afford to buy top brands of all food, so we get some store brands, or dont get teh expensive pointless food. (drinkable yogurt for a dollar a container, or the toaster strudles that are 6 for $3.) So my point is food stamps people get the luxury of food that I cant have. |
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Clark Kent
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Welfare is a fiendishly difficult issue. The principal "welfare" in the country is AFDC - Aid for Families with Dependant Children. It gives money to mothers/parents with minor children, so that the children don't starve. Unemployment isn't as big of an issue (but certainly not a small issue), because of the qualification procedure (you must have had a job to begin with that you lost). AFDC gives you $$ and foodstamps. More children = more money. If the custodial parent(s) has a job, then that is offset against the welfare. So it encourages mothers to have lots of kids and to NOT marry - if they marry a guy with a job, then the husband's money reduces the welfare. It also makes it very difficult for the single mother to work. When she gets a job, she now needs daycare for the children, and her welfare has been reduced because of her job. AFDC can also provide some daycare benefits, but there is a large spot in the middle (where most poor uneducated mothers are) where it essentially would be really stupid of them to get a job. So the system self-perpetuates.
Yes and no - matter of definition. The defense budget is the largest of the "discretionary" budget. But Social Security and Medicare are by far the largest item of the non-discretionary budget. AFDC is partially state and partially federal money. The real question is whether SS, Medicare, AFDC, etc. ADDS to the economy or DETRACTS from the economy. |
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Clark Kent
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And nobody doubts that. But, as I said before, the issue isn't the cream. John Johnson was bound to succeed, whatever his circumstances. But most people aren't John Johnson. Most people are fairly motivated, fairly intelligent, fairly studious, and think Algebra II is very difficult. What about those guys? Should they also get the same shake, regardless of race? |
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Clark Kent
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I actually agree with points I AND II both. I agree that with the legal obstacles out of the way, that eventually things will even out again, and that the formerly oppressed should work hard towards that goal. BUT - the direct effects of formerly legalized racism linger, and have left a very serious mark on the young generations of today. You can't just declare racism gone with an act of Congress. It will take generations for it to go away (if ever - witness anti-Semitism after all these years). So to say we "fixed" racism in 1964 is too simplistic, just like it is too simplistic to say that "oe noez, t3h Man is keeping me down". Both are too extreme, and both are incorrect. First (IMO), we need to acknowledge the following points: 1. The effects of legal racism remain. 2. There remains actual racism today, both intentional and unintentional. 3. Both of those truths place an unfair disadvantage on black Americans, entirely due to their race. 4. Our ultimate goal is a meritocracy (to a large extent, anyway) regardless of race. Only when we recognize those truths can we decide the best way to address the situation. Affirmative action is one possible solution, but there are certainly others, and AA obviously has its drawbacks. Simply ignoring the issue and letting time solve it is also a possible solution, although we would have to sacrifice several generations of American blacks in the process. Presumably there are other solutions that I can't think of at the moment. |
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entropy
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Does that somehow make the facts less true? |
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Roll Tide
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The fact that the North was disturbingly brutal during the invasion of the South is usually left out. |
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Snake6
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Yes, Fort Sumter was the sovergn territory of the state of SC, the union refused to surrender the territory to its rightful owners, therefore SC attacked to regain its territory. Remember history is only told from the view of the side that wins. |
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entropy
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Wow snake6, just...wow...
You do know that South Carolina attacked first, right? Fort Sumter? |
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Snake6
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I beg to differ. The United States as a nation was founded upon the priciple that the people have the responsability to withdraw from or overthrow an unjust goverment. The southeren states at the time of the civil war felt that the federal goverenment was infringing upon the rights of the states to make their own choices about slavery, amongst other things these. These choices were under the constitution reserved for the state gov't to make. Therefore the south left the Union because the federal gov't infringed upon thier rights. So Lincoln didnt like it so he attacked the CSA. Hence the cuase of The War of Northeren Aggression. |
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Hades
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Hmmm. Lets get rid of Veteran's and Memorial Day and all the memorial's for them; plus the VA clinics. Those wars are in the past too. Not to mention a big waste of my tax money...
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Snake6
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Coundnt agree more. |
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Fat Stalin
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You are one of the intelligent ones? You could have fooled me. Half of your posts AR3 LYKE Z0MG. And the other half include pointless rants about how the poor should have an advantage when applying to college. Edited by Fat Stalin |
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Hades
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I guess smileys and multiple !!! dont denote sarcasm anymore.
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Roll Tide
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/missed sarcasm. Edited by Roll Tide |
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