Abortion/ Goverment power debate.

Must be nice to live in a state full of half intelligent people. Ohio just milfed our chances of cleaning up the idiocy and corruption in the Taft regime for a while. I seriously don't know how 2-5 could have failed that bad. Whatever, I'm starting to believe this state deserves everything it gets. I just wish we didn't have so many electorial votes.


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I guess "rational" is a matter of personal opinion.

I was happy with that measure not passing as well.

I wanted 74 to pass

I choose to support whatever is trendy*. I never lose that way, since im part of the majority, and the majority always wins!

*except not.

Hades wrote: The big beefs with Prop 77 was that basically every time the political party changed hands the districts would most likely be redrawn to favor the party in power. The citizens would not have a chance to dispute the redrawn lines before they went into effect. To me, it would be like the President restacking the Supreme Court every time the party incharge changed hands to favor their political doings.

Sounds alot like good ol' fashion gerrymandering....

The panel consists of 3 retired judges that are hand picked my the politians [there wasnt a provision for the panel to be impartial that I was aware of]and while they are not directly obligated to redraw the lines to the satisfaction of the polititians that picked them, it is feared they will. Just like the Electors of the Electoral college are not bound by any laws to vote for the party they represent's canadate, they in the past have almost or have entirely voted party lines.

Also the panel of 3 judges picked to redistrict the state in theory could all be picked from the same area and screw over the other areas of the state.

Also redistricting in California is not due for another 5 years and it is supsicious that there is a need to do so other than to favor it in the opposite parties behalf.

Hmm.  Yeah, Hades, that doesn's sound so hot either.  There must be a better way.

I wonder what they do in other countries...

Heh, this is the one my mom got all mad at my dad about.

She was happy with the results though.

Jim Paint wrote: Why should the parents know that their daughter is having sex?

 

are you serious? 

i believe that women have the right to choose what is best for them, which means they can choose abortion.  but i do not think it is the only way.  but a 14year old should have to tell her parents that she messed up and now is pregnant.  but she should have the final say in if she wants to keep or abort the baby.  NOT EVER the parents choice.

now onto the real thing, i would want to know if my child is having sex.  from everything i have learned everyone needs to talk to their children very early in age (as young as they start asking questions) about what sex is.  and if you think that withholding information is the best way (aka absitance only programs) or work well, look at the statistics and information on those.  THEY DO NOT WORK.  but just like drug information, if you give young people information they will be less likely to ever try a drug.  with sex they will 1)  experiance sex later in life 2)  enjoy their sexual experiance more 3)  be more comfortable with talking about sex and 4)  they will be more likely to USE protection.

  

ABORTION IS HOMOCIDE!!    How can you say a 14 year old child has the right to decide about abortion. She cant even drive yet  alone decide if she wants to abort a innocent baby! Abortion now is just a to erase a mistake,"oh were having a bay lets abort it thats the easy thing to do!" Just like divorce," oh were arguing lets get a divorce''(there are exceptions to the divorce thing) Why these kids are having premarital sex is... well I dont know. The point is parents should know and abortion should be outlawed. This is my beliefs and I stand by them.