Abortion/ Goverment power debate.

Linus wrote: Abortion should only be allowed in 2 cases. One- The girl was raped. Two- The baby would be born with some sort of disease (Down Syndrome, etc)or it threatens the mother BUT if the girl gets preg. from consentual sex, then it's her fault.

So this isn't about the life of the child - it's all about the actions of the mother?

aGUYnamedLARRY wrote: Catholics are encouraged to have sex,  they don't have TRY  and have kids everytime they want some action (lol). I wasn't saying that it was stupid of her to have sex,  I was saying that trying to bear a child when  you're that old is taking it a little bit to far.

Having sex = "trying"

At least if you are a practicing Roman Catholic, as the church prohibits the use of birth control.  And, judging by your demographic summary, so does your local community.

That was my point:  If you condemn birth control, condemn abortion, and condemn people for having children in their 40s, then you are pretty much cutting off sex (or limiting the nature thereof) for most people most of the time.

You still haven't told me how you feel about cats.

Linus wrote: Ok, I can't stay out of it anymore. Here's my opinion, and there is no changing it. Abortion should only be allowed in 2 cases. One- The girl was raped. Two- The baby would be born with some sort of disease (Down Syndrome, etc)or it threatens the mother BUT if the girl gets preg. from consentual sex, then it's her fault. If you're old enough to decide to have sex, you're old enough to live with the consenquences. "But the condom broke" "But the pills didn't work" So what, you still chose to do it, and you chose to accept the risk of doing it. End of story. (Thanks Impulse, forgot about that part. yes if it would have some sort of detrimental health defect for the mother too.)

i thought we established eirlier that the mental copasity of young teens was limited to the present and not so much the future, meaning that they think about the action there doing rather than "if i do this i might be a dad/mother".

now that i've been threw court for blood testing my opinion has changed on the subject of abortion. when i was 15 my girlfriend was with child, it tore me apart, i became quite ill and lost nearly 20 pounds form throwing up. it made me grow up quick. she had the baby on my 16th birthday 7-10-04 at 11pm, i got a call around 3am with her telling me she had a healthy little girl, i was half asleep but i remember that conversation. the next morning i woke up and went to the hospital, i held that child for nearly 4 hours. well time passed and we ended up in court, i had to take a 3 hour class at a college about parenting and crap. anyways i took a blood test, waited 7 and a half weeks, i remember where i was the day my mom called me and told me the news from the lawer, i was not the father, i was in D.C. standing in line to buy a t-shirt, i thought i may have wet myself, i was so excited. since then my opinion on abortion has changed i also have not been sexualy active in over 25 months. just my story for the day.

i used to think just the way you do linus, guess that experiance changed my opinion on that, life does things like that....

oreomann33 wrote: So it's some sort of punishment for doing a natural thing?

That's the word I was looking for - "punishment".  There is a very definite sense from some pro-lifers that bearing a child to term is somehow "punishment" for some perceived behavior.  On the other hand, if you are a good person, we will make the problem go away.

djrock wrote:  I could post some 500 reason to support my side

Please, post some of these reasons.

djrock wrote: It would just be a way to see the correct how many people support pro-life. It wouldn't be a poll to see which is right, just to see some numbers.

That's what I meant - internet polls are not a meaningful measure of opinions.