Gas operated automatic PB guns?

the SMG feeds fast enough to keep up with the runaway.

the Factory F/A used a double sear system to delay the next shot.

Clark Kent wrote: There is a very limited market for full auto only guns - hence the F/A and SMG are both out of production.

The Tippmann F/A was mechanical select fire.  The safety controlled how far back the trigger could be pulled.  In "semi" it operated just like any other mech-semi; but, in "auto" the trigger could be pulled back farther which disengaged the sear.  The ROF was slowed by twin hydraulic pistons which engaged/released a second sear.  This kept it from shooting so fast that it broke paint.  I know from personal experience that the system was a major pain to keep properly timed.

Mack wrote: The Tippmann F/A was mechanical select fire.

I stand corrected.

^^^^   Those I knew about - but with the ATS guns, I will refer back to my "complicated" note.

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Styro Folme wrote: Destroy_Boy wrote: "high velocity + automatic fire =lawsuits" No, I believe 1000 fps is when it counts as a "fire arm". I never said it was a firearm.  I don't think that's true anyhow.  I've seen low power bullets that fire 850fps.  It doesn't even matter if it's a firearm anyway.   Besides, if you can fire it at people in semi-auto, automatic won't matter. Acutally, it would.  People sometimes panic and hold the trigger down.  this results in overshooting and lots of meaningless pain. I see where you're coming from, but, at some point we need to stop acting like pansies, WE ARE NOT DREW BLEDSOE FOR GOD's SAKES! So what if you get shot 10,000 times DB got sacked 10,000 times(not literally but...) I mean you play for fun, and so there are repercussions, it's equivalent exchange you play with automatics so do they, therefore you run the risk of getting shot many times, if you don't like it, then don't play or find somewhere else, or better yet, make your own place...   And also, if that were true, what about the electronically operated automatic guns? Just because they have a full-auto setting doesn't mean it's allowed on the fields.  They have a semi-auto setting for a reason.  I know it's not true automatic, but still.   It's probably a state or city thing for where you live.     But seriously, I think I remember reading that 1000fps is the cut off.

EDIT: Take none of that seriously, I just really hate Drew Bledsoe... damnit... am I spelling that right?


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Styro Folme wrote: high velocity + automatic fire =lawsuits, bad points for out sport, and perhaps banning of personal markers.......funny how 1+1 can equil three......

BINGO!! we dont want any lawsuits lol

rifling in a paintball barrel would be useless...

think about it... a paintball is a liquid filled shell.  that liquid is what makes rifling useless.  if you put a spin on that shell, the liquid doesn't exactly have to spin the same direction/speed.  although certain spins can and will affect the flight of a paintball, flatline and apex barrels utilize this, rifling barrels and putting a spin on the paintball will not make it any more accurate. 

also, making paintballs bullet shaped... this complicates things even more... you then need a new feed system so that each round is loaded the correct way.  with the way it is now... as long as the paintball is in the chamber, it's ready to go.

the only way to really get accuracy is to first get consistency.  compressed air and good regulators are key in making this happen.  you also need a good quality barrel... and you usually get what you pay for.  i'm not a big fan of J&J ceramics... did you know that any anodizing procedure produces a small layer of ceramic... at least i believe so.  I'm a huge fan of cp barrels.  anyway... those 2 components along with practice practice practice.  i can give you the most consistent gun with the best barrel on the market and without the ability to aim, you aren't going to shoot anything. 

and finally back on subject... sure companies could make mechanical full auto markers, but the demand isn't high enough.  the majority of the paintball market is going to established fields that have insurance.  these insurance companies don't allow full automatic fire due to safety reasons.  sure you might be a backyard baller, but you should still be concerned for safety.  if i cranked the velocity up on my gun and played, i'd be a danger to everyone i am shooting at.  anything over 300 feet per second can damage the goggles out there and i don't know about you but i like my eyes. 

maybe so, but iv personally seen them save ur butt (face same thing) several times

sneaky_sniper wrote: do i have to go over this again, it doesnt matter how much air pressure is in it, and how fast it goes, if it runs on air, its an air gun, theyre called FIRE arms because of the propellent is set on FIRE and causes gasses to exspand and force the projectile out of the muzzil, no matter how fast it goes i dont care if its 534,532,532,452,345fps, unless it uses some form of FIRE to propell it, its not a FIRE arm, if it uses air, its and air gun

well in that case wouldn't the c3 be a "firearm"? 

yea, it is