just a little barrel kit discussion

As far as I know there is not a difference as far as length goes.  It does however seem to be that where the porting starts (the little holes in the barrel) makes a difference.  I found Lapco's site to be the most helpful in explaining everything but since they are advertizing thier own product at the same time I don't know how trustworthy the information is but, according to them the closer the porting is to the gun the less effective the barrel is.  From my personal experience the closer the gas comes out of the gun the louder it is and then again, i'm not an engineer.

Here is the link: http://www.lapcopaintball.com/faq/keep_in_mind.html

right, but most barrel kit backs/bases are 5 inches and the Redz Peppers have 8 inch backs. to me this says more accuracy. is that necessarily true though?

The base of the gun doesnt effect the accuracy... but what does is from the point of contact with the paintball inside of the gun when it shoots, till the exit of the barrel.  What will also change the accuracy is the shape of the barrel, little things like holes designed so that air escapes in a certain way that may create a spin for further distance.  It may also be designed to reduse the noise by sending it more into a specific direction, if that makes any sense.  If theres more holes on the barrel, it will tend to spread the noise to make it more spread out seaming much quieter.  If there was no holes the noise has only one place to travel which is straight, meaning whoever ur shooting at will hear it the best.  Stupid details like that is the difference between a 15$ barrel and an 80$ barrel

As far as noise.  No difference..  Thats all on the mechanics of the gun itself.  I hear autocockers are the most accurate paintball guns though.

Chuck357 wrote: The barrel backs do effect accuracy because you can get a good paint to barrel match which is what you need for an accuarate gun. My empire barrle kit on my cocker shoots darts,and as an added benefit it is so quite that I have shot people and they didnt have a clue where it came from.For low pressure set ups you definately need a kit to get a good paint match so as to not loose to much of the available pressure due to blow by of an improper paint to barrel match.Get one and see for your self, By the way im not just a cocker fan I have 2 A-5's as well.

How does the base effect your accuracy?

That would effect the amount of air that it needs to escape the chamber, but that doesnt do anything about ur accuracy.  If the chamber/barrel is too tight, than the ball wouldnt even go through it, or it would burst inside of it. 

ygdrasil54 wrote: daveb333 wrote: That would effect the amount of air that it needs to escape the chamber, but that doesnt do anything about ur accuracy.  If the chamber/barrel is too tight, than the ball wouldnt even go through it, or it would burst inside of it.  Which is the only reason people buy barrel kits in the first place dave, so they can get a great paint to barrel match.  You obviously wouldn't select a back that one of your paintballs wouldn't even fit into.  This would cause breaks as you said, BUT they would be caused by a user controlled factor, which is easily eliminated by selecting the proper back for the size of the paint.  Holding your barrel back perpendicular to the ground w/the gun end threads up, the perfect paintball should fall an inch or more into it and then stop. If it falls right thru, you need a smaller back.  If it did indeed stop, it should take a little more than a little puff of air to send it shooting out the end (when done so like a spitball thru a straw) because any paintgun is going to put alot more air behind the ball than you're capable of doing for this test.  With any barrel other than a Flatline (or maybe the Apex - don't know much about that but from what I've gathered, it's simply BT's answer to the flatline so it probably works along the same principle) this match is arguably the most important of the three critical factors that are known to improve accuracy.  The other two being a regulated power source (HPA or Palmerized CO2, & paintball quality.)  The backs, or inserts, depending on which kit you get are what give you this. Good paint to barrel match, plus a regulated air source to minimize velocity spikes, when using a good quality paint will give you the best accuracy attainable for any given paint gun.

All paintballs are the exact same size!  exactly .689 caliber.  The only difference between paintballs is shell texture, fill color, whethere the fill has soap or not, shell softness, mass and how much paint is inside.  This fact is proven when you go to buy paintballs.  They dont ask you what kinda bore your gun is, or what kinda gun you have!  They are all the same.  Any paintball will fit any paintball gun, so obviously your making it up as you go.  Or in other words your talking out of your a**

Edited by daveb333 - 07 April 2006 at 5:48pm

By the way dave, since you think you know it all,whay are here in this forum? Also maybe you should buy from other than your local wal mart,since they sure as hell know as much about paintball as you do.

Edited by Chuck357 - 07 April 2006 at 6:05pm

Lol 3 posts in a row.. throwing a little temper are we?  lol how old are u anyways?  12 prolly... you should be embarresed if your not, cause that would mean you have no excuses.

Im on this forum to help people with no sense of logic or physics, such as yourself.  Why don't you re-read the whole conversation and than look at what you have said.  You really are pathetic.

BTW ive never shopped at wal-mart.  The only place ive shopped was SAKworldpaintball.com and boston paintball.  Lol good try though.  You remind me of one of those kids who thinks money is everything.  Yet again another newby.

FYI Dave,I'm 35 and been playin paintball for almost 7 years,you want to talk about logic,hehehe, here's logic for you you can't shoot a paintball thats .687 out of a .681 barrel, and calling me a noob...dam I love that, you are the pathetic one, not knowing paintballs are different sizes from different manufactures,do yourself a favor,until you know what you are saying to other people you shouldn't bother helping them, you are only giving them false information.Don't try to be what you definately are not...an expert! And you writing prolly instead of probably...dam give me a break, is it laziness or stupidity that causes you to write like that? Don't worry about helping me,you have nothing to offer me,I can see that from the stupid things you are saying, trust me you really don't know as much as you think.Ask around about paint sizes, you'll see then you'll be educated.

Ok, I made a mistake, i didnt realize that paintballs are different sizes... but ive talked to my buddy who owns a local paintball shop.  He tells me that you can shoot a .689 caliber paintball out of a .681 chamber, because the paintballs have flex.  This is actualy benificial because it doesnt squeez out air past the paintball

So I GOT A GREAT IDEA..  DAVE HAS COME UP WITH MANY MANY ARGUMENTS OVER EVERYONES STUPID COMMENTS.  SO LETS ATTACK HIS SPELLING..  Then lets CLAP ABOUT IT!1    YEEHAAWW  then we can all watch NASCAR!