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    Posted: 30 April 2006 at 2:08am
The XM8 is the project name for a lightweight assault rifle system that was under development by the United States Army from the late 1990s to early 2000s. The Army worked with the small arms manufacturer Heckler & Koch (H&K) to develop the system to its requirements in the aftermath of the OICW contract, for which H&K had been a subcontracter to ATK. Although there were high hopes that the XM8 would become the Army's new standard infantry rifle, the project was put on hold in early 2005, and cancelled on October 31, 2005.

General Dynamics was involved in latter stages and H&K had plans to produce the rifle at a plant in Georgia. H&K was British owned at the start of the project, but was later bought back by a group of German investors. Engineering work was done at facilties in the United States and Germany.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hairball!!! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 April 2006 at 2:32am
Cancelled October 31, 2005? Why are you posting it now?
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Big deal?
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Old for those of us who cared. Irrelevant for the majority who didn't.

Shame, though...
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The SCAR will be much better anyway
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Originally posted by Lt. Howler Lt. Howler wrote:

The SCAR will be much better anyway

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as70-e.htm

 

Looks like it's already out, slick.

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^^ looks sharp, to bad the light is still using a .223. At least the heavy is use a good round.
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The SCAR is like my favorite weapon in GRAW.
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The SCAR will not be a general issue rifle to your average grunt- it's another weapon in the lineup for the specops types.

Realsitically, the M16 system does not need to be replaced with an entirely new weapon. there are uppers and lowers based on the system that offer incredible possibilities. Say, for instance, a safe-semi-auto lower receiver with a carbine stock, and a Barrett M468 upper in 6.8mm SPC, with a 16 inch barrel. It incorporates an ARMS inc. S.I.R. rail into the basic assembly, so it's already fitted for all the modular accessories.

A weapon like this is the same as the M-16 only in appearance and operation- but think of how much training time that would save; a family of uppers based on the 6.8mm cartridge could simply replace the uppers in service, mated to lower receivers from existing weapons as appropriate. The troops would already be familiar with the system, and would simply need to adapt to the heavier round.

Eugen Stoner's system still has a lot of life in it as modern technology is adapted to it. There's no need to ditch the M16 style weapon for a new one, so long as efforts are made to field a weapon with all the modern components and capabilities the soldiers deserve.
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i wonder if smart sparts sp8 is going to flop like this
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Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Old for those of us who cared. Irrelevant for the majority who didn't. Shame, though...
I agree to all 3.

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Originally posted by Lt. Howler Lt. Howler wrote:

The SCAR will be much better anyway

well, duh. fn >*. my uncle has an L1A1, which is just an australian fn fal.

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SCAR fills a certain role, but may not necessarily suited for general use.

DeTrev, the Canadian forces used our version of the FAL for a great number of years too. Supposed to be a hell of a rifle.

I'd like to put a few mags through an F2000 jsut for kicks. That looks like an interesting system.
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I wonder if the UK plans to replace the L85 anytime soon?  I hear it performs poorly in real combat situations.
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Originally posted by Brian Fellows Brian Fellows wrote:

I wonder if the UK plans to replace the L85 anytime soon?  I hear it performs poorly in real combat situations.


Sweet on the range, crap in the sand. Even the A2 version they have after H&K gave it a makeover isn't particularly reliable. I've not heard of any plans to replace it, though.
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Just like the military to try and reinvent the wheel. The M16 series will soldier on for quite awhile. Just like in the 50's when the military looked for the next "combat rifle" and everything from the M14 (upgraded M1 Garand), SAR48 (FN/SLR copy), AR10 (7.62,
several Stoner designs, and the final pick the M14, replaced less than 8 operational years later by the AR15/M16.

The XM8 was a problem child from initial test, every engineer trying to improve reliability, and the system got what is deserved.
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