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The projectiles have been designed especially to break up on impact, eliminating risks of penetrating injuries. Thanks to their fin stabilized design, the projectiles have an effective range of 50m with a much higher hit probability than any other similar product.

The primary effect is trauma : the shock (15J/cm³) directly neutralizes the aggressor. Secondary effects will be delivered by a chemical payload chosen according to the mission requirements

All .68" projectiles have a 8.5g weight, a polystyrene body and a granular non-toxic bismuth forward payload

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having techincal difficulities...i apoligize
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The projectiles have been designed especially to break up on impact,

 eliminating risks of penetrating injuries.

Thanks to their fin stabilized design, the projectiles have an effective range

 of 50m with a much higher hit probability than any other similar product.

The primary effect is trauma : the shock (15J/cm³) directly neutralizes the

 aggressor. Secondary effects will be delivered by a chemical payload

chosen according to the mission requirements

All .68" projectiles have a 8.5g weight,

a polystyrene body and a granular non-toxic bismuth forward payload

 

had a problem..sorry



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A true compromise between accuracy, efficiency and safety

     

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    The projectiles have been designed especially to break up on impact, eliminating risks of penetrating injuries. Thanks to their fin stabilized design, the projectiles have an effective range of 50m with a much higher hit probability than any other similar product.

    The primary effect is trauma : the shock (15J/cm³) directly neutralizes the aggressor. Secondary effects will be delivered by a chemical payload chosen according to the mission requirements

    All .68" projectiles have a 8.5g weight, a polystyrene body and a granular non-toxic bismuth forward payload



    Edited by cmts58 - 26 November 2006 at 12:58am
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    What carrier?

    The impact should be that of any other PB.
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    is the carrier designed to break apart on impact?i believe it is..im just wondering what the impact would be from the round without the bismuth forward payload
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    Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

    Originally posted by The Innkeeper The Innkeeper wrote:

    Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

    While this is by far the most successful "fin stabilization" thead I've seen in a while, I would like to point out to participating forumers, ther is an "edit" button.

     

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    "the military came to us and wanted a more accurate non lethal system we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile. "

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    is the fn round any more accuate than a standard paintball?a high quality paintball,out of a high quality barrel,of course
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    Originally posted by The Innkeeper The Innkeeper wrote:

    Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

    While this is by far the most successful "fin stabilization" thead I've seen in a while, I would like to point out to participating forumers, ther is an "edit" button.

     

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    Originally posted by cmts58 cmts58 wrote:

    does anybody realize...this is a paintball.refs are not going to allow ANYTHING like this.ever.anything that has the mass to be affected by fins is way to dangerous to shoot at people...

    Look, man, I am not trying to bring LTL, or any part of it, into PB. Also, what you are wanting to do would do us no good from the insurance standpoint. Everything is designed around gelatin shells with polyethylene fill. Any deviation from that, and this idea is DOA.

    No LTL. 

    At this point, it also appears that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth on the issue. I am strictly trying to bring in availible technology, adapted for safe everyday PB use, within the boundaries of the game. If we start walking outside of that ideal, it aint gonna work.
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    how heavy would the projectile be without the bismuth?could we just use a tweaked version of teh fn round?but im not sure gelatin is the answer.maybe a extremly soft rubber?and are you planning on .68 cal?if you take out the bismuth,it may be like wise to a paintball impact.could you do me a favor?take a round ,remove bismuth payload,and fire into medium.repeat with standard paintball from same distance.record damage.then if that is feasible,we can use the exact design,just construct the round out of a different material.

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    Special purpose paint? Yes. More expensive? Yes, probably. I am researching the process to see how I can make this feasable.

    The fins cause the round to rotate, or "spin", while traveling thru the air, imparting rotational stabilization on the projectile. The round is accurate, from my own first-hand accounts.

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    i think you have a good idea,its just is this going to be a special purpose paint?like for tanks or bunkers?sniper assassinations?i just dont know about the manufacturing process.currently,a paintball is two identical shell halves fused together with fill inside.the manufacturing of your rounds would be exceedingly expensive for all purpose paint.but imagine a sabot to launch an fbomb bigboy 150 feet out of a custom launcher,and this sabotwould have interlocking notches between itself and the barrel,imparting either spin,or if it would be more accurate,designed to prevent any spin,and exactly what effect do the fins on the fn303 projectile cause?
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    Hm. Your edit added an intruiging idea, but at this point I am not looking into dealing with anything past the breech. All I have seen the 303 ammunition (it's a daily basis thing out here), the fins do not protrude further than the OD of the PB. To have the interlocking type of system you are thinking about would require either the fin protrusions, or the PB to be notched, as you said. Something to put on the back burner, for me, to think about.
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    Slanted.

    I am not dealing with any type of rifling. That is beyond the scope of this project.

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    fin stabilization and rifling are totally different unless spiraled fins...straight or spiraled?maybe interlocking notches by the barrel and projectile,that would impart exactly the amount of spin desired 

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    Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

    While this is by far the most successful "fin stabilization" thead I've seen in a while, I would like to point out to participating forumers, ther is an "edit" button.

     

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    While this is by far the most successful "fin stabilization" thead I've seen in a while, I would like to point out to participating forumers, ther is an "edit" button.
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    Mostly accuracy. Extra range would be a bonus, but not the driving force behind the idea.

     
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