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Pics of the tenative mounting position:

 

Side view, would be as if sighting down the marker:

 

Outboard view:

 

Top view:

 

I hope this clears some things up.

 

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Check, and check.

More of a side mount, I suppose. I am trying to keep it in line with where standard hoppers are mounted now, along with being backwards compatible, to make this idea as palatable (sp) as possible.

I think I have some pics of the relationships.

Of course, if you want to mail me a marker, that would drastically speed up the process...

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I think you have your work cut out for you. I think you will find that you will not only have to mill the inside of the adapter to allow passage of the projectiles, but will also have to ensure the adapter is the right length (in relation to the projectile width) to prevent binding between the projectiles and the feed cylinders.

On a related note, do you envision this to eventually be a side mounted, or more a top mounted magazine.
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Correct, as I said in my opening statement, and at least one other time on Page 1 of this thread.
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Originally posted by The Innkeeper The Innkeeper wrote:

Drum as chamber.

Avoiding it because it would ruin the marker for normal paintballs.



Okay, since this drum seems like it could also be used for normal paintballs, I'm going to assume you mean that you don't want to alter the marker to where it would no longer work with a hopper. Is this correct?
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Right...

Why is there always just "the only way" to do something?



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the only way this would work is if you swung the elbow away on a 98,then maually loaded a round....still either drum,breakopen or etc....
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Drum as chamber.

Avoiding it because it would ruin the marker for normal paintballs.

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Originally posted by The Innkeeper The Innkeeper wrote:

Look at the FN-303. That is exactly what it does, and it is exactly what I am trying to avoid.



  • Which is exactly what it does? (Uses drum as chamber or has a long bolt travel)
  • Why, exactly, are you trying to avoid it? (Whichever applies)
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Look at the FN-303. That is exactly what it does, and it is exactly what I am trying to avoid.

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Originally posted by cmts58 cmts58 wrote:

im thinking break open pb gun


Or modify a marker to accept the drum feed in the same way the Thompson submachine guns did.* It would require either a longer bolt travel (to push the projectile forward out of the magazine and into the chamber), or a strengthened magazine where each separate location for the ammo actually acted as the chamber (like a revolver cylinder) during operation.



*Whoa, that's a lot of dremeling!


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im thinking break open pb gun
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Feed elbow, Mk I:

I went a little overzealous on the tooling, and the upper channel is a bit much. I have another, or I can get some epoxy clay and retro fit it. On that note, since I don't have a large selection of tools, I could use the clay as a smoothing agent for finishing.

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Top View:

 

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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

YWSM is a member here. "You Won't See Me." He has the same avatar.

Perhaps I should change mine, then.

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Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:

But the thing is going to get jostled going down the feed elbow. 

Paintballs get jostled as they slide down the feed. As long as they stay faced, its not a problem. Also, there will be some spring tension from the magazine that will prevent them from getting obnoxiously out of kilter.

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YWSM is a member here. "You Won't See Me." He has the same avatar.
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But the thing is going to get jostled going down the feed elbow. 
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Something about not bringing your own bullets to a combat zone. I got things taken care of, don't worry.
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why dont you just get a discarded round?dont steal,but just like buy one or something
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I have to mill the feed elbow to a shape that lets the 303-type ammunition load into a marker breach. It's not hard, but i have to keep taking measurments at work and then bring them back and  work on it here. It's time consuming, and annoying.
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