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    Posted: 05 December 2006 at 11:08pm
I wanna see what you think.

Porn on the interweb and softcore pron on TV is getting more and more accessible.

Some people say this is step forward that we are becoming a less up tight society about sex.

Others, say it is derogatory, downgrading and just plain disgusting.

What do you think? Do you think the media needs to be more carefull about whats shown on TV and maybe the goverment needs to crack down on websites to make sure viewers are of age, not just a warning at the top of the page.

I personally have never really liked porn, I have looked at it, (like everyone else) and it actully just seems gross to me (alot of it), and can not shake the feeling that, "thats someones daughter" kinda thing. i dont know, just how i feel personally.


well, whats your input?


(edit, i though sex and porn got caught in filter)


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"this is step forward that we are becoming a less up tight society about seks."

EDIT: OR it sends the message that we are still so uptight that we have to make it illicit and hidden. It wouldn't hold peoples attention nearly so much if they just accepted it.

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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

"this is step forward that we are becoming a less up tight society about seks."


should we be "more" uptight about seks

should we discuss that seks is much more then just a physical, unfufilling desire, and that there is a deep emotional attachment to your partner and should be kept sacred?
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its only degrading if its something thats absolutly disgusting like watersports, barnyard fun, or pics of carl. all that stuff should be banned. im not uptight about seks but when any of my friends are talking about i ithinks its kinda akward.
friend-so i came up on this girl and she was like OH
me-oh ya


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Originally posted by Squishey Squishey wrote:

its only degrading if its something thats absolutly disgusting like watersports, barnyard fun, or pics of carl. all that stuff should be banned. 


again, where/how can we draw the moral line, there has to be line, not someones biast opionion of what can be alowed and what cant.
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I think north america is grossly uneducated and uptight about sex and sexuality.  Look at europe, way more relaxed about it, and its not causing huge social problems within their countries.

Its really only a big deal because people make it a big deal.  Look at words you couldnt say on TV 10 years ago, and how common some of those words are now.  They dont have the same impact anymore as they once did, just because they arent as taboo, and are used more often.

I hate to see when people are really prudish about sex or their sexuality, especially when a girl thinks that enjoying their sexual side is dirty or wrong.  If a guy can do it, a girl can too.  Its natural, healthy, and fun.
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Unfortunatly you can't really regulate internet prons. If you can't regulate illegal music downloading how do you expect to put a cap on the porn.

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This is an interesting topic that can be maturely discussed on both sides.

But this is a forum full of horned up teenagers who are pretty much just going to say "OMG ITS MAH RITE TO LOOK AT TEH PRONS!!!"

I think pornography can be slightly disillusioning to people. I think it callouses people to the act. I don't entirely know if this is a bad thing or not though. It leads into another quite interesting topic of how much emotional weight people put into the act of sex, and if that is a good or bad thing.

I hope this topic stays smart/clean long enough to get some good conversation out of it.

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Originally posted by FROG MAN FROG MAN wrote:


Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

"this is step forward that we are becoming a less up tight society about seks."
should we be "more" uptight about seksshould we discuss that seks is much more then just a physical, unfufilling desire, and that there is a deep emotional attachment to your partner and should be kept sacred?
No, we need to be way less uptight about it.
And it only has that deep emotional/sacred attatchment because you assign it to sex.
As to drawing the line, as long as it's a consensual act between knowledgable adults that does not harm anyone not involved, why stop them?

Tae- Good point. But whether or not It is the right thing for someone to look at porn should be their decision, not someone elses. If it disillusions you, well, you can hardly blame anyone else, you chose to view it.

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As you said though many people only know the zomg! aspect of porn. I agree that it definatly desensitizes people which is bad IMO. It also puts a lot of false notions into young minds. But as I said try finding a way to rationalize internet porn.
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Originally posted by Santa Chewp Santa Chewp wrote:


I hate to see when people are really prudish about sex or their sexuality, especially when a girl thinks that enjoying their sexual side is dirty or wrong.  If a guy can do it, a girl can too.  Its natural, healthy, and fun.


Well there is a difference between being prudish, and just not wanting to do it.

I think that a girl can know that she is sexual without having sex. It all depends on how much emotional attachment someone puts into sex.

This is not saying that people who have sex simply for the physical pleasure of it are wrong at all. They just do not have the same feeling involved, and that is cool too. It comes down to the individual person really.

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Westerners in general seem to put WAY too much emphasis on the importance of sex.  There are plenty of people who dont take it super seriously, and understand sex for what it is.  Others see it as a huge sacred act that is sinful under ANY other condition than making babies.
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See the thing about porn, is if people want to find it they will, so why not instead of being scared of porn, embrace it, and bring with it education, and show that have a personal moral standard is important.
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Originally posted by Razgriz Ghost Razgriz Ghost wrote:

I agree that it definatly desensitizes people which is bad IMO. It also puts a lot of false notions into young minds.


I agree with this quite a bit. Pornography at a young age gives kids a false idea about sex, I think.



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Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Santa Chewp Santa Chewp wrote:

I hate to see when people are really prudish about sex or their sexuality, especially when a girl thinks that enjoying their sexual side is dirty or wrong.  If a guy can do it, a girl can too.  Its natural, healthy, and fun.
Well there is a difference between being prudish, and just not wanting to do it. I think that a girl can know that she is sexual without having sex. It all depends on how much emotional attachment someone puts into sex.
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I don't think the point of Chewps statement (correct me if I'm wrong) Is to say everyone should be having sex 24/7. It is that people shouldn't be embarassed to admit/embrace their sexual identity. Whether or not they go out and do it is irrellevant.
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Originally posted by Santa Chewp Santa Chewp wrote:

Westerners in general seem to put WAY too much emphasis on the importance of sex.  There are plenty of people who dont take it super seriously, and understand sex for what it is.  Others see it as a huge sacred act that is sinful under ANY other condition than making babies.


I am not really falling on either side. I don't think there is anything wrong with putting emotional attachment on the act of sex. I don't see how it makes someone not "understand" sex any less. Now, the crazies that think any sex outside of marriage is wrong, I don't agree with them at all.

I fall somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.

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Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

Originally posted by Tae Kwon Do Tae Kwon Do wrote:


Originally posted by Santa Chewp Santa Chewp wrote:

I hate to see when people are really prudish about sex or their sexuality, especially when a girl thinks that enjoying their sexual side is dirty or wrong.  If a guy can do it, a girl can too.  Its natural, healthy, and fun.
Well there is a difference between being prudish, and just not wanting to do it. I think that a girl can know that she is sexual without having sex. It all depends on how much emotional attachment someone puts into sex.
Hate to respond on someone elses behalf, but Here goes...
I don't think the point of Chewps statement (correct me if I'm wrong) Is to say everyone should be having sex 24/7. It is that people shouldn't be embarassed to admit/embrace their sexual identity. Whether or not they go out and do it is irrellevant.



Oh, I agree 100% with that, worded in that manner.

People, especially ones who fall into the Christian/religious area,  are far too afraid to admit they have any sexual urges or to embrace their sexuality. It leads to nothing but repression and frustration.



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*Sex
*Porn

Are we so uptight that we have to "fix" the spelling?

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Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

*Sex
*Porn

Are we so uptight that we have to "fix" the spelling?



ya, I (and some other people) belived that they would get caught in the filter.

wich actully fits nicely into this discussion
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squishey i will honestly send you pics if you want man.....

or anyone who wants them

....not even kiddding

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