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    Posted: 10 March 2007 at 2:23pm

 

      I'm looking to buy a new gun, and am considering the X7. I have read alot of these posts and saw few saying that the X7 was a good gun. Money isnt a problem, i just want a gun thats good at mid-close range and is reliable. Ive heard that tippmans are very reliable. I would also want an EGRIP for the gun to give it a faster fire rate.

     I just had a few quick questions

 

       With the commando stock, does the C02 tank go inside the stock or just stick out the back? If it sticks out the back, that would make for a very long gun. -_-

      Also, i noticed that the flatline barel for it was relitivly short. Is this good or bad? Or is the flatline barrel even worth getting at all?

 

       Im not really looking for other options, more of what your thoughts are on the X7

 

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It is what it is, if you're looking for a marker that can have it's looks changed at your whim with ease, then yeah, it's a good marker. Otherwise it doesn't have any real advantages over Tippmann's other markers.

That said, what exactly are you looking for in your marker? Do you want to play woodsball only, speedball only, or a mix? Are you looking more for realism or performance? There are a lot of good markers out there in the same price range that could suit you.
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I want something that can do a mix. Like i said, the price doesnt concern me. The looks are nice. Im more of a player that will run into **edited** rather than sit back and wait. Im looking for performance over anything else. I want a gun that is accurate and reliable.
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The X-7 is really built for the mil-sim guys who want their marker to resemble an actual fire arm vs have the best performance available. The thing to remember is that "speedball" marker like the Smart Parts Ion is going to do just as well in the woods as it would on a hyperball field. Honestly, if money isn't a concern, I'd be looking at a DM6 or DM7, Etek Ego, or some other high-end marker. The ability to throw some paint while still being accurate is a huge advantage in any situation

As for the X-7, there have been some reports of cyclone feeder issues with the earlier batches. I'm not sure if the kinks have been worked out or not. But if you want a versatile marker that you can use almost anywhere under any circumstances, on the low end I'd say go '98 or A5, in the mid range: Ion or Epiphany or PMR or even a Lasoya Promaster from ICD (They're on sale for $199 right now) and on the high end: Ego/Etek, DM6/7, PM6/7 or have AGD build you an E-Tac ULE automag if you've got cash to spend.
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X7s are nice guns but directed towards scenario ballers who want that "realism" effect. You're better off looking into a SP Ion and upgrading it how you want.
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buy a new barrel first thing
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Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

The X-7 is really built for the mil-sim guys who want their marker to resemble an actual fire arm vs have the best performance available. The thing to remember is that "speedball" marker like the Smart Parts Ion is going to do just as well in the woods as it would on a hyperball field. Honestly, if money isn't a concern, I'd be looking at a DM6 or DM7, Etek Ego, or some other high-end marker. The ability to throw some paint while still being accurate is a huge advantage in any situation

As for the X-7, there have been some reports of cyclone feeder issues with the earlier batches. I'm not sure if the kinks have been worked out or not. But if you want a versatile marker that you can use almost anywhere under any circumstances, on the low end I'd say go '98 or A5, in the mid range: Ion or Epiphany or PMR or even a Lasoya Promaster from ICD (They're on sale for $199 right now) and on the high end: Ego/Etek, DM6/7, PM6/7 or have AGD build you an E-Tac ULE automag if you've got cash to spend.

DM6/7s are overratted. Don't get me wrong they don't suck, but their not that good (some people talk as though Jesus himself built the DM7...did he?), besides its the PLAYER NOT THE GUN. Even if I had enough money for the DM7 I wouldn't buy one. Mainly because I'm a woodsballer, and shooting 30bps isn't really much of an advantage. Unless you like running out of ammo right away/wasting paint (cuz most of those shots, are gonna miss), then I guess you can call it an advantage. But I prefer accurate shooting, and conserving ammo, and using tactics... The DM7 is a speedballers gun, but I'm a woodsballer.



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Tippmann A-5:
>Tapco CAR stock.
>W.A.S. board, E-grip.
>Spyder Remote Line.
>Smart Parts 20" barrel.
>Other custom mods.
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Originally posted by KillerBD KillerBD wrote:


DM6/7s are overratted. Don't get me wrong they don't suck, but their not that good (some people talk as though Jesus himself built the DM7...did he?), besides its the PLAYER NOT THE GUN.
It's always the player, but when you have a good player and you put a high-end marker in their hands, then the marker performs even better as does the player. Are you trying to tell me that if you gave Mattie Marshall, Constantine Federov, Todd or Mike Peveril, Robert Rose, or any of the other great players out there a '98 custom and threw them in against their normal opponents on ANY type of field that they'd prevail? Of course they wouldn't! They'd be out-gunned in a heart-beat! The player can only do so much, the gun can only do so much, together, if it's the right mix of great player and great marker, they can really rock-out. But the blanket statement of "It's the player not the gun" as an anti-high-end mantra is just pure B.S. usually shouted by the players who have some sort of latent marker-envy that they just can't get over. If you're just going to spout that kind of crap, go back to spec-ops where they spoon feed you that s***.
Quote Even if I had enough money for the DM7 I wouldn't buy one. Mainly because I'm a woodsballer, and shooting 30bps isn't really much of an advantage. Unless you like running out of ammo right away/wasting paint (cuz most of those shots, are gonna miss), then I guess you can call it an advantage.


Really? That's kinda funny, because almost every single scenario team worth mentioning, from Blue's Crew to the old-school OMHW see huge merit in their speedball-playing members. Yeah, that's right, they know that speedballers are extremely good players who know what they're doing and have significant value in the woods. Just because the bunkers that speedball players use for cover are inflatable doesn't mean that they can't use the same techniques they use on the tournament field to dominate a woods game. 30bps in the woods also means that you can hold down a force far superior in numbers than you could with your average marker. I've personally tied up whole flanks by myself due to the fact that I could lay down a tremendous amount of paint ACCURATELY. Just because I'm firing off a hopper in under 10 seconds doesn't mean that the balls aren't going where I want them to. Saying that a DM is inaccurate is just stupid. Dye makes some of the best barrels in the industry. They have a hefty price-tag because they have a reputation for being some of the best, not just because it says "DYE" on the back. What do you think they put on their DM's? My STOCK DM barrel shoots better than most after-market ones. Just because I don't need a different barrel doesn't mean my marker is any less accurate. I have a choice every single time I play, I can either lay a rope of paint if I feel the situation calls for it (and yes, even in the woods, it often does) or I can take single shots. I long ball as many people as I bunker when I play.
Quote But I prefer accurate shooting, and conserving ammo, and using tactics... The DM7 is a speedballers gun, but I'm a woodsballer.



So, you're saying that simply owning a DM series marker means that you suddenly loose all ability to think and act strategically AND tactically? You're trying to tell me that the Ultralight that my DM came with isn't accurate? You're telling me that just because I CAN lay a rope at 22+bps means that I must always do so? Your arguments have no validity what-so-ever. You just sound like some kid who's pissed off that he can't afford a high-end marker so he's lapped up every "elite sniper"/"woodsball revolution" lie and mis-conception that has been fed to him. Go learn about the sport before you even attempt to post anything even remotely resembling advice. It used to be that the Speedball kids were the annoying ones, but guys like you make me just as sick as the speedball kids used to.

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if your getting a faster gun, autocockers ions shocker an protos are great for fast accurate shots, i love my a5 its great, go with whatever you like, the ion has alot of kits out to make it look differant
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I would go with a basic Tippmann  (A la 98 or A5) myself, but its up to you.

BTW the tank does not go in the stock. Most people with stocks such as myself use a remote, a little cable going to your backpack

 

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