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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 7:57pm

I go with dye also.

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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 7:11pm

Of the ones listed, I have to go DYE because I cannot consciously go with any SP product anymore. Not to mention the fact that I'm not a HUGE fan of plastic on the field, but that's what they made the epiphany for.

Anyway, that said, if money isn't an object, you can still do better than the ones listed. AKA made some very nice markers that you can pick up used (or new if you don't mind an '04 model) and MacDev makes the Cyborg series of markers which are pretty much phenomenal. I love 'cockers myself, but they aren't for everyone and the costs CAN get rather high if you want to turn it into a tournament machine.

I'm shooting a DMLCD right now, which is one of the older Dye Matrix markers (the first actually) and it keeps up with most of the big-boys on the field with a few modifications and drop-ins. Mind you, it's heavy and a gas-hog, but the DM6s and 7s I've shot recently have been rather nice. I'm not a big fan of the milling, but there isn't a lot you can do when you need marker-length air-channels to operated the whole system, not like you can cut a bunch of holes in it. I also like the '07 Ego, but haven't had a chance to do more than put paint/reball through it at the local shop.

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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 7:09pm

Most of the "top-end" guns fall into one of the following categories. As between these, it may be mostly a matter of personal preference and minor differences - they all shoot very well.

- Matrix of various kinds, including the DM series

- Shockers

- Angels

- Intimidators

- Ego

- E-Cockers

- Some Automags

- AKA guns (Viking/Excalibur)

I may have missed one or two, but that's about it. There are a few top-quality specialty/rare guns out there, and a whole bunch of really-good-but-generally-not-as-good-as-these guns.

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Posted: 23 March 2007 at 6:42pm

Thank for the always appreciated humor on my avatar. Nice to see how close to detail you guys pay. Aside from that, no offence to the newbies because I'm one of them, but I would like some of the experienced players on the forum to give their opinons on this poll. And if need be make some more suggestions. Thanks GUYS for the big help.

Poll Question: What is the absolute best gun for all around speedball?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Proto m7	1	[0.43%]
Smart Parts- ION	4	[1.72%]
Dye DM7	216	[92.70%]
Smart Parts Tremor Shocker	2	[0.86%]
Some kind of Auto Cocker	10	[4.29%]
You can not vote in this poll

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b_mid Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 15 January 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 239	Post Options Post Reply Quote b_mid Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2007 at 7:57pm
	I go with dye also.

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	Of the ones listed, I have to go DYE because I cannot consciously go with any SP product anymore. Not to mention the fact that I'm not a HUGE fan of plastic on the field, but that's what they made the epiphany for. Anyway, that said, if money isn't an object, you can still do better than the ones listed. AKA made some very nice markers that you can pick up used (or new if you don't mind an '04 model) and MacDev makes the Cyborg series of markers which are pretty much phenomenal. I love 'cockers myself, but they aren't for everyone and the costs CAN get rather high if you want to turn it into a tournament machine. I'm shooting a DMLCD right now, which is one of the older Dye Matrix markers (the first actually) and it keeps up with most of the big-boys on the field with a few modifications and drop-ins. Mind you, it's heavy and a gas-hog, but the DM6s and 7s I've shot recently have been rather nice. I'm not a big fan of the milling, but there isn't a lot you can do when you need marker-length air-channels to operated the whole system, not like you can cut a bunch of holes in it. I also like the '07 Ego, but haven't had a chance to do more than put paint/reball through it at the local shop.
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Rambino Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member I am even less fun in person Joined: 15 August 2002 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 16593	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rambino Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2007 at 7:09pm
	Most of the "top-end" guns fall into one of the following categories. As between these, it may be mostly a matter of personal preference and minor differences - they all shoot very well. - Matrix of various kinds, including the DM series - Shockers - Angels - Intimidators - Ego - E-Cockers - Some Automags - AKA guns (Viking/Excalibur) I may have missed one or two, but that's about it. There are a few top-quality specialty/rare guns out there, and a whole bunch of really-good-but-generally-not-as-good-as-these guns.
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GregL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Has trouble distinguishing between sexes Joined: 13 March 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37	Post Options Post Reply Quote GregL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 March 2007 at 6:42pm
	Thank for the always appreciated humor on my avatar. Nice to see how close to detail you guys pay. Aside from that, no offence to the newbies because I'm one of them, but I would like some of the experienced players on the forum to give their opinons on this poll. And if need be make some more suggestions. Thanks GUYS for the big help.