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    Posted: 16 May 2007 at 12:50pm
Right, the paintball mini gun has been done before. Problems include loading the paint and having enough air.

Propane marker has been developed, but can not fire fast due to heat build up.

Combine the two. The original gatlin gun was designed to speed up loading of rounds, ejection of cases and reduce heat build up in barrels by alternating the barrel being used.

For my final year mechanical engineering project i plan to adopt the propane system and using forced convection caused by fans on the rotating barrels to cool the combustion chamber. I am aiming for 40bps. Limited by cycle rate of combustion chamber and loading speeds.

I have the loading system sorted, which i am not going to revel right now, but it will use a cam follower system and be force fed. All mechanical, no electronic hopper involved.

more info: http://www.irish-paintball.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10711

I send tippmann an email looking for info and help, so if any of the design team in watching, get in touch ;)

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Ehhh...

I can't decide if this is worse than paintball skydiving or not.

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Ehhhhhh

How can you compare jumping out of a plane with markers with just making a new different type of marker?

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Originally posted by irish_paintball irish_paintball wrote:

Ehhhhhh

How can you compare jumping out of a plane with markers with just making a new different type of marker?

I'm not comparing the idea, i'm comparing the quality of the idea.

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I don't know how you are going to do it, but that's because I'm not an engineering student yet. More power to you.
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

I'm not comparing the idea, i'm comparing the quality of the idea.



That makes no sense.

Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

I don't know how you are going to do it, but that's because I'm not an engineering student yet. More power to you.


There are other paintball mini guns out there:
http://scenariodreams.com/productpages/minigun.htm
http://www.remotelyinteresting.com/paintball%20minigun%20pag e.html

But now incorporating the propane idea that tippmann have developed. It should just be a matter of combining the two.



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Originally posted by irish_paintball irish_paintball wrote:



That makes no sense.



Yes, it does
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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by irish_paintball irish_paintball wrote:



That makes no sense.



Yes, it does


What ever. If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all.

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Originally posted by irish_paintball irish_paintball wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by irish_paintball irish_paintball wrote:



That makes no sense.



Yes, it does


What ever. If you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all.

no



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Enough with the trolling Carl.
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Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

Enough with the trolling Carl.

But he started it

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Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by karll karll wrote:

Enough with the trolling Carl.

But he started it



I really hope that was meant to be a funny.
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Originally posted by karll karll wrote:


I really hope that was meant to be a funny.


Ya, me too .

Anyway, on other forums, the idea has been getting good feedback and ideas. Some people even offering to help with labour. Like i said, it is a college project and not gauraeented to work.

3-drawings will be up in a week or so to give you a rough idea of the feeding system and the firing mechanism

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Actually, Carl, you are being kind of an a-hole with this one.

It's a decent idea, but I don't know how you are going to pull it off. I'm ancious to see the schematics. I came into this thread with an "Oh god, not another one," mentality, but this seems pretty well thought out. Hope it works out. A problem I see is gas mixture and quantity. It's going to be difficult to feed gas that fast at a proper mixture and keep constant velocities.



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ehh... having a crappy day.

I do not necessarily take back what I said, more in the way I said it.

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wouldnt the heat be way to much?

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He's gotta cooling system planned out evidently. What about liquid cooling?
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Liquid cooling is extra weight and complex. Fan assisted cooling should be ok. Take a chain saw or a petrol lawn mower for example. They would get much hotter and are cooled only by air. Given, then get much hotter alright, but it still would be enough.

I was working out a few calculations there regarding the speed. 40bps is a bit much for the propane system. By the time the mixture combusts, expands, and a new mixture is drawn in, it is too long. 20bps is a more realistic figure.

So i can either put two firing mechanisms on it, or just design it for a 20bps.....but then thats no fun for a mini-gun.

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