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Mack
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Yes, because laws against handguns are always obeyed by criminals and anyone who wanted to carry one for nefarious purposes would most certainly decide not to do so once they realized that they couldn't do it legally. |
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carl_the_sniper
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Edited by carl_the_sniper - 06 September 2007 at 11:44am |
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<just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs>
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stratoaxe
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I think I sort of see his point...I emphasize the sort of part... Carrying a handgun is a valid right, IMO, with a proper license, but at the same time in a situation where you're on the street and someone makes an attempt on your life, odds are you won't have time or reflexes to use it. Defending yourself with a handgun does require a little bit of timing to work properly. I really just want the gun to keep in my truck, namely because I travel alot. It's just good to have a little protection with you. However, with a law they passed last week (I'm way too lazy to look it up right now), in certain wording your vehicle is made an extension of your house. An officer was telling me that by that reasoning, technically you really don't have to have a CHL to carry a handgun in your car/truck, as long as you're of legal age to own it. I'm not going to take that chance, and besides as I said it helps me skip the background check when buying a gun. |
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stratoaxe
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Yeah, because all murders are committed with a handgun.
Edited by stratoaxe - 06 September 2007 at 11:49am |
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Benjichang
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CCW debate. Ready. Go. Seemingly more prevalent than religious and abortion debates, but equally filled with lulz.
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CarbineKid
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Congrats on picking a great weapon. I would have grabbed the Sig myself, but Sigs are not lefty friendly..so I overpaid for a HK. The Sig Pro series is IMHO just about the best there is when it comes to polymer guns. The recol is good, fit and finish are excellent. Its reliable and easy to field strip.
Just make sure you grab plenty of ammo and extra mags(before the 08 elections!!). I shop(via the net) at MidwayUSA.com, or CDNN investments. Both stores have great prices, and a good supply on hand. As far as a CCW debate lets keep it to the 101 other threads concerning it. |
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stratoaxe
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You got a great gun with H&K man-again, my dream pistol. You just don't get any better, and certainly not more accurate. What I love about HK is that you get a competetion grade gun in a duty grade package-reliability and extreme accuracy. Yeah, I plan on buying several mags for it, thanks for the site tips I'll check them out. I bought some cheap 9 dollar a box Wolf ammo for plinking, and some of the relatively expensive Hydra Shok's as defense rounds. Edited by stratoaxe - 06 September 2007 at 12:23pm |
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PaiNTbALLfReNzY
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Don't forget the HE rounds
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usafpilot07
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My dad's department just recently switched from the H&K guns they used to carry, to Glocks. He said he couldn't be happier. The USP's they used to carry were much heavier, AND more expensive. The standard issue now is the 9mm for most of the force, ie. uniformed, administrative, etc. And the Detectives and my dad's drug unit carry the .45's |
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CarbineKid
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CDNN does not have any listed, midway has them for $34.99 a piece. Its not the greatest price, but I don't think you will find a Factory Sig mag for less. The guys over at the Sig Forum would know better than I. Heres a pic of the model I have. The P2000 Edited by CarbineKid - 06 September 2007 at 1:34pm |
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Mephistopheles
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The chinese lead-based toys drive the people on insane murderous killing sprees. |
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DeTrevni
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My uncle has a P226, .357 Sig. Beautiful gun, and since the rounds are necked, it seldom, if ever, jams. Also, the kick is very manageable. The safety is very secure, and easy and convenient to operate. Two thumbs up for the P226. Can't say anything about yours though, just I know Sigs are nice guns.
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Brian Fellows
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I thought only the 229 was chambered in .357 Sig? That's the handgun carried by the Secret Service.
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CarbineKid
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Nope the 229 was designed for the .40 S&W. It also comes in 357 and 9mm. Sigs P229 page Sig Pro FAQs Pistol Wallpaper page..great pics Edited by CarbineKid - 06 September 2007 at 1:42pm |
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carl_the_sniper
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Umm... Number of murders using firearms per capita: United States: 2.8 per 100,000 pop Canada: 0.5 per 100,000 people |
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Brian Fellows
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Yeah, I wasn't quite sure. |
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Mephistopheles
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Violent Crimes
US: 475 per 100,000 Canada: 963 per 100,000 Sexual Assault Crimes US: 32.1 per 100,000 Canada: 74 per 100,000 Assaulte Rate US: 295 per 100,000 Canada: 746 per 100,000 Enjoy the ride back to Canada on your high horse. Just be careful you don't get assaulted or raped when ya cross the border. |
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Susan Storm
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Now, I generally caution against using crime stats out of context, but Meph - it would seem that your stats support Carl's point. If Canada has higher assualt rates but lower murder rates, would that not support the thesis that guns convert assaults into homicide? |
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stratoaxe
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Edited by stratoaxe - 06 September 2007 at 2:38pm |
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Susan Storm
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Most intelligent post I have seen in a CCW thread here in a long time. |
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