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pootiestang
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Topic: To keep or to sell my 98C????Posted: 09 October 2007 at 12:10pm |
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Alright lets see if I can get this all done in one thread.
The last time I was on the forums I was convinced to get a 98C. I love this gun, I am the occasional player and I couldn't be happier with the reliability and ease of use. I just recently played again with some friends and I am thinking about upgrading the gun some more and possibly selling mine to one of my friends. My gun has a flatline, ricochet, rocket cock II, drop, double trigger and thats about it. I would like to get more bps out of it and consistancy. From what I have seen on youtube, 15 to 20 would be right for me. I dont see the need in getting a gun that can do more then that. I play woodsball pretty much all the time. I like the R/T but I dont like the fact that its illegal in some situations, so I am naturally inclined to want the e-grip. However I am under the impression that I will need a 98c Pro to use an e-grip? Is this true? If so no big deal, neither of my friends have any equipment so I can sell my gun to them for a deal and buy a new gun while keeping my flatline. Then my next question is what should I do about ball feed? Is the cycline upgrade worth it or should I get a revy? I figure for consistancy I would go with a expansion chamber and a palmer regulator and a anti syphon kit? Under heavy fire on a new tank, my gun pretty much becomes a snow machine. When playing this weekend I saw some military looking vests that I really liked. I was thinking about picking one up and putting my C02 tank on a belt with a remote line. Any issues to be expected with that? Thanks in advance |
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jordanpischke
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Posted: 09 October 2007 at 6:39pm |
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If you have a newer 98 custom than you can get an egrip. It has to have a Serial number over 893,000. Getting a cyclone depends on what you set your bps to. It says it feed up to 15bps without any upgrades.
Edited by jordanpischke - 09 October 2007 at 6:42pm |
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sinisterNorth
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Posted: 09 October 2007 at 6:58pm |
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You'll need a newer 98c as mentioned if you want to use an e-grip in it. The cyclone is a great upgrade and I would say go with that, especially if you'll be sticking with the 98. I would go with the Palmer's if you have the money, but any expansion chamber should reduce the excess CO2 from pouring out. Remote lines are a great way to reduce the weight of the gun though they can and often do get caught up in larger brush/twigs.
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pootiestang
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 2:31am |
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Damn, I didn't bring my gun home with me so I can't check the serial number. I bought the gun my freshman year in college which would have been 5 years ago. Pretty good chance I am in need of a new one?
So if a cyclone can go 15 bps, then I assume it can be upgraded for more? At this point I think I would be very happy with 15 bps, so I guess I will put it down on my list of things to get. It was really nice to play again and I look forward to getting some more time in soon. Also curious, anyone know where I can find some good paint ball vests? Also, any reason why this ACT would be a problem? I haven't seen it mentioned but I thought I should ask before I go out and buy. EDIT: After doing some research here are a couple things that I think I have learned. I don't need to worry about ACT with a cyclone feed system. The 98 Custom pro is just a hoped up Custom, in reality all I need is a newer 98c enable to get an e-grip. With my own double trigger, and a remote line I won't need the drop and pre installed double trigger that a pro offers me. Is this assumption correct or is there something I don't know about a pro ? Thanks for all the help! Edited by pootiestang - 10 October 2007 at 3:31am |
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netramakin
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:25am |
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I did a lot of resarch on vests before purchasing and ended up going with the Recon 6 from SpecOps for it's value and durability. It has 2 grenade pockets (which fit the AO/Tippmann FBombs perfectly), a radio pocket (which I use for my Allen wrench; again, perfect fit), a map pocket (which I usually throw a squegee and/or maps in), a large side pocket for whatever (I usually put CO2 cartridges in there for my sidearms; you could probably fit 50 or more of 'em in there), 4 pod pockets, a velcro name plate with cover, a velcro spot on the left breast for a patch/name tag, two large velcro backed cummerbund-like pieces that snug up to your stomach to keep your vest from bouncing around, three nylon width adjusters per side (which I loop through holsters to carry TAG8s like a shoulder rig saving me $30 or so), a bladder pouch (bladder sold separately; don't buy the outragously priced one from SpecOps) and a spot between two of the pod pockets for a bottle pack (far more preferable than having it high up on your back), though note that it is sold separately. It also breathes very well so I highly recommend it. |
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:30am |
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So, let me get this straight, you want 15-20bps out of your marker while still getting consistency and running CO2?
Alright, first things first. It sounds like you want a woods ball set-up seeing as how you have the flatline on there and you're asking about vests and remotes. So, assuming this is the case, I'd suggest going R/T rather than e-grip if you're looking to save a few bucks as the R/T only becomes "illegal" in tournament situations. As for an x-chamber, remote, AND a stabilizer all together, that is completely unnecessary. A remote coil will act just as well as an expansion chamber, so you don't need both. A palmer's stabilizer will outperform a remote and an x-chamber, so if you have the cash, that is the way to go. The stabilizers were made to run on CO2 and keep liquid out of the marker. They do so quite well. So, if you have a stabilizer, you don't need a remote or an x-chamber to keep the liquid CO2 out of the marker. As for vests. I don't like wearing something on my center mast that allows for easy breaks. There's a reason tournament players have their packs low and behind them. It reduces the chance of a pack-shot meaning better chances of bounces and a reduced profile. |
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:36am |
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^^All great info but I'm confused about the pod thing. If my pods hung any lower on my vest, they'd be bouncing off my legs, which is the same for most vests I've seen.
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tallen702
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:14am |
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For a great example, go to Http://www.one4one.tv and watch the second video down on the page. Notice how when you look at the front profile of the tournament players, you don't see anything except the waist strap for their packs? Having a full vest, like those sold by Spec-Ops and Rap4 are nice for scenario play when you actually need all of those pockets, clips, etc. but for practical purposes of weekend-baller/speedball play, they offer too much surface area for paint to break on. The whole point to a speedball player's pack is to keep the pods behind, low, and away from the sides so there's less chance of a round breaking on them. That's why I don't like vests. My jersey and pants are made for maximum bounce-ability, so something like a vest would just compromise the set-up for me.
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 1:59pm |
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Hmmm, never noticed a difference in pod placement before and I don't have a pic of my vest on me (and it was difficult to tell from the SpecOps pics), but now that it's on my mind, I'll have to check it out when I go home. I'm more concerned about comfort and weight distribution, though, as I do woods more than speed. I do, however, use just a pack when I feel like I need a little more freedom (almost always for speedball). Sorry about hijacking the thread a little, Pootiestang, but I forgot to say: DON'T SELL YOUR 98. You'll regret it (unless you're DeTrevni, of course). |
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:07pm |
Thanks for your insight. Suppose I am going overkill in some areas. At the time of posting I was only bringing up the remote line to allow me to wear a pack on my lower back with my 20 oz tank and 4 pods. I wasn't aware of what effects it would have on my gun. If I were to buy the remote line, would a regulator be of any advantage? I suppose if tourney play is nothing I am worried about, a R/T trigger wouldn't be a bad idea. |
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Posted: 10 October 2007 at 11:26pm |
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A reg would be of an advantage in the long run as you use the reg to govern the amount of CO2/HPA entering the marker's valve and thus, get better consistency. The tricky thing about using a reg on CO2 is that the chill-down effect of the CO2 causes the springs and pistons to contract and thus the velocity you achieved with the marker at the chrono may be different from the velocity you achieve on the field after the reg chills down. That said, the Palmer's stabilizer is made to reg CO2 and thus, it doesn't suffer the same effects as noticeably. So, the short answer is yes. The long answer is that a reg would be of advantage, and if you have the money to do it right, go for it as you can always take the reg with you as you upgrade your marker, or switch to a higher-end marker.
Ultimately, when it comes to the choice between RT and e-grip, I find that firing both makes the decision a lot easier to make. I personally like the RT as there aren't any modes to mess around with, and it works rather well even with regulated CO2. But, it's all a matter of personal preference. So before you buy, see if you can't get someone to let you try out theirs at the local field. |
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