Tippmann Paintball Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Paintball Equipment > Upgrades and Customizing
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Can’t get this scope on my 98 w/Flatline

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Can’t get this scope on my 98 w/Flatline
    Posted: 07 May 2008 at 4:02pm
Hey i got a 98custom with the flatline barrel and i got the NcStar 30mm Paintball Red Dot. I cant seem to mount it on the barrel because the clap is to big. Anybody have this scope/or scope like it that mounted it on a 98 custom/flatline

Thanks a bunch
Joe
Back to Top
Ceesman762 View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Time for a C-Section!

Joined: 15 November 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 5029
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ceesman762 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 4:05pm
NcStar!  Oh No! check out previous threads on that optic. Hope you saved the receipt.
Innocence proves nothing
FUAC!!!!!


Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 4:16pm
No i got it online. It seemed pretty nice. All metal (not plastic) and have seen people pull it off with the flatline barrel online. Just not sure how. 
Back to Top
Snake6. View Drop Down
Member
Member
Avatar

Joined: 03 November 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 451
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snake6. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 4:46pm
NcStar red dots are complete junk. I would send it back.

Paintball Chat
I'm at work, Leave me alone!!!
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 5:10pm
the one i got ratings were pretty good... I am sure the plastic ones are really bad but this one is metal....So anybody know how i could get it on? 
Back to Top
Mack View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Has no impulse! control

Joined: 13 January 2004
Location: 2nd Circle
Status: Offline
Points: 9906
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 5:42pm
Which model is it?

Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 5:45pm
I got:
Tippmann 98 Custom w/ Flatline barrel
NcStar 30mm Red Dot Scope DBB130
http://www.amazon.com/NcStar-30mm-Paintball-DBB130-Tippmann/ dp/B000OE9L0W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qi d=1210196672&sr=8-2


Edited by Sicilian - 07 May 2008 at 5:45pm
Back to Top
Mack View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Has no impulse! control

Joined: 13 January 2004
Location: 2nd Circle
Status: Offline
Points: 9906
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 5:49pm
Regarding the marker: 

  • Which 98 Flatline do you have?
  • The one with the one piece shroud or the one with the two piece which includes a weaver rail for the top of the 98?
Also, regarding the sight:
  • When you look at the bottom of the sight is one of the crossbars for the clamps lower than the other one? 
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Regarding the marker: 

  • Which 98 Flatline do you have?
  • The one with the one piece shroud or the one with the two piece which includes a weaver rail for the top of the 98?
Also, regarding the sight:
  • When you look at the bottom of the sight is one of the crossbars for the clamps lower than the other one? 


Lets see
The Flatline is i guess two pieces--This one

and the scope the cross bars seem to be one the same level

It really seems like the clamp is too big to fit on the rail. I asked some guy and he said something about a 'dovetail' style attachment. But i have no clue what that means




Edited by Sicilian - 07 May 2008 at 6:18pm
Back to Top
Mack View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Has no impulse! control

Joined: 13 January 2004
Location: 2nd Circle
Status: Offline
Points: 9906
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 6:35pm
There are several types of attachment systems for sights:
  • Weaver and picatinny rails (which are essentially the same thing) have a series of cross spaces which keep the sight from sliding forward/backward.  (One of the clamp screws interlocks with an opening in the rail.)

  • Dovetail rails are narrower and lack the cross spaces. (The silver piece below is the dovetail rail.)


Sights for the two types of rails are not interchangeable.

The picture of the Flatline at your link is fuzzy but it looks like an older model based on the rear sight and apparent lack of a weaver rail.  (It should have two pieces; the metal barrel and a plastic shroud.) These barrel shrouds came with a single 3/8" dovetail rail molded into the top.

I found an example of the DBB130 sight at this location.  Immediately to the left of the DBB130 is a similar sight designated the DBB130/3 (Dovetail) which leads me to believe that the model you purchased is probably set up for a weaver rail.

I don't think your sight is compatible with your marker.  However, the only way to be certain of this is for you to post actual pictures of your equipment.  If this indeed the case, you can find adapters that will let you use the sight.

Edited Note:  Another option if you actually have a problem.  I should have remembered to add this as I had to use this solution for a similar issue a few years ago.  I went to a sporting goods store and bought a weaver rail that looked generally the right shape and size.  I used the dremel to drill a couple of holes in the top of the Flatline shroud, then attached the rail with small screws, nuts, and washers from the hardware store.  I used to have a picture of the installation, if I can find it I will post it.



Edited by Mack - 07 May 2008 at 6:41pm
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 6:59pm
yeah i got the DBB130 not the DBB130/3 dude thanks so much for your help. So what is the next step, is there a adapter or should i just buy a new scope?
Back to Top
Mack View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Has no impulse! control

Joined: 13 January 2004
Location: 2nd Circle
Status: Offline
Points: 9906
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 7:17pm
I wouldn't buy a new scope.  I found the picture of the rail I added so I'll post it first.  (By the way, this is a good example of what the top of the old Flatline rails looked like.) 



You can check a local sporting goods store and maybe find something along these lines or could also check for more paintball specific products.


Edited by Mack - 07 May 2008 at 7:18pm
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 7:22pm
Oh so there is an adapter.... but 32 bucks is alot for an adapter when the scope was only 35. 
Back to Top
Mack View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Has no impulse! control

Joined: 13 January 2004
Location: 2nd Circle
Status: Offline
Points: 9906
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 7:38pm
There are probably cheaper adapters, I just posted the first one that showed up in my web search and had a decent picture.  Someplace around here I have a two-part adapter system that I purchased at Scheel's Sporting Goods for another project and only paid about $8.00 for.  If you look around, you can probably find something inexpensive as well.

I don't think I spent more than $12.00 for all of the parts it took to make the homemade adapter in the picture of the 98 I posted.
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2008 at 10:11pm
I might buy a adapter off ebay or just get a weaver rail from dicks and screw it into the flatline barrel. Was what you did easy?
Back to Top
Sicilian View Drop Down
Member
Member


Joined: 07 May 2008
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sicilian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2008 at 12:03am
hey mack i just orderd a Dovetrail 3/8" to weaver rail adapter off ebay...once again thanks so much for your help and lets hope this works well


P.S-----You were right it only cost like 10 bucks shipped on ebay
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.402 seconds.