HELP! Brand New A5 problem

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   ok, I scoured the forums last night trying to see if anyone had the same problem that I have and no luck, so here's my cry for help!!  I had two of my buddies over last night and they have A5's as well (over a year) and have never seen this before at all.

A5, low profile hopper, HPA (nitrogen), remote coil, HE trigger

ok, so here is what's going on, I'm only getting about 1 out of every 10 shots to actually let a paintball fly, the rest of the time it's just shooting air (the balls are good quality, the same kind they shoot in their guns by the way)...the cyclone is cycling fine, plenty of air pressure (2-3000psi)....I'm going to email Tippmann as well, but don't know how long they will take to respond, so please, if anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears!!

thanks!

Chris

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cwindom1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 21 February 2009 Location: NW GA Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote cwindom1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: HELP! Brand New A5 problem Posted: 22 February 2009 at 8:49am
	ok, I scoured the forums last night trying to see if anyone had the same problem that I have and no luck, so here's my cry for help!! I had two of my buddies over last night and they have A5's as well (over a year) and have never seen this before at all. A5, low profile hopper, HPA (nitrogen), remote coil, HE trigger ok, so here is what's going on, I'm only getting about 1 out of every 10 shots to actually let a paintball fly, the rest of the time it's just shooting air (the balls are good quality, the same kind they shoot in their guns by the way)...the cyclone is cycling fine, plenty of air pressure (2-3000psi)....I'm going to email Tippmann as well, but don't know how long they will take to respond, so please, if anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears!! thanks! Chris

Robby_of_PBH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 03 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robby_of_PBH Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 1:43pm
	Your cyclone is cycling you said? Is the gun making a shooting noise and the paintballs just not coming out or what?

cwindom1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 21 February 2009 Location: NW GA Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote cwindom1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 2:24pm
	yes, that's exactly what's happening....air will come out the barrel, but no balls...maybe 1 out of 10 balls....I took it buy the local proshop today and he just said "it shouldn't be doing that" and he said he would fix it (at $25 an hour) so of course since it's brand new I'm not going to be paying for any work on it yet....waiting to hear back from tippmann where I emailed them or waiting to see if anyone on here might know something? the guy at the proshop wasn't very helpful since I wasn't going to pay for him to fix it, but I got the impression that he thougth something's wrong with the Hall Effect trigger, but I'm not sure on that.....thanks, again, any suggestions greatly appreciated!

Yomillio Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Retard Joined: 31 July 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3398	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yomillio Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 3:03pm
	Well, it wouldn't be a trigger problem if the gun is actually cycling. Definitly seems like a Cyclone issue, but that doesn't seems likely if it is pretty new. Strange. Are you sure your tank is a high-pressure output (850 psi) one? The Cyclone won't work right if you're using an LP tank (450 psi). Are you sure the Cyclone is loading balls into the breech?
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DeTrevni Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group b-YOU-ick. Was that so hard? Joined: 19 September 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Status: Offline Points: 11951	Post Options Post Reply Quote DeTrevni Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 February 2009 at 3:14pm
	Keep in mind that "high pressure output" doesn't refer to the max PSI of the tank. You posted your tank puts out 2-3,000 PSI. That would probably cause a catastrophic failure of your maker. That's about how much the tank holds. It most likely puts out only 850 or so PSI, which is the right amount to run a Tippmann. However, like Yomillio said, if you did get a low pressure output tank, which only puts out about 450 PSI, you will have trouble with your marker and Cyclone cycling. Since you said the marker itself was fine, you probably have enough pressure. Is there some sort of blockage in the hopper or Cyclone that's keeping the paintballs from feeding? If the marker and Cyclone are working fine, I have no idea what it could be... Edit: Oh, you said you had 2-3K of PSI left. In that case, I'm even less sure. This is strange indeed... Edited by DeTrevni - 22 February 2009 at 3:16pm
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	while it may be new have you watched the cyclone for a few shots in a row. it sounds like the cyclone will end up being your culprit. you may want to check the ratchet to meake sure everything is in properly. also check for air leaks especially with the remote. you may just not be getting enough pressure to the gun from the line itself. If that doesnt work and its new then Tippmann will fix it for you for free.
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Robby_of_PBH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 03 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robby_of_PBH Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 February 2009 at 2:25pm
	Well what about the bolt? There is movement int he chamber right? I don't know how the bolt would stop working or come disconnected, but it sounds like that could make sense. If you manually put a ball in it, does it shoot it? I wouldn't want to pay anymore 25$ an hour, screw that. How much does it cost from Tippmann anyway? It shouldn't be anything too bad I wouldn't think, I'd say give it a shot yourself and see what can happen.

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	Are you using CO2??? Outside? on a cold day??
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cwindom1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 21 February 2009 Location: NW GA Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote cwindom1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 February 2009 at 7:51pm
	no, shooting nitro, and it was fairly warm weather....~50 degrees or so....

cwindom1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 21 February 2009 Location: NW GA Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote cwindom1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 February 2009 at 8:49pm
	ummm....actually it is something with the bolt.......I'm new at paintball so don't know how stuff should be working on these guns exactly.... but I did pull up a video on you tube to try to see if I could see something about the A-5 bolt....and I noticed that people were cocking their's and it was staying pulled back until the trigger is pulled..... I pull mine back and it just goes back to orig. position....with or without air.... so any words of advice? should I tear into it and see if I can fix it or make Tippmann take it back and send another?

Robby_of_PBH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 03 March 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robby_of_PBH Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 February 2009 at 9:41am
	Wait a sec, whatcha mean then? So your cocking the gun right, and then the hammer goes forward and hits correct? That would mean you feel the little kick. You don't have to recock your gun everytime when you have CO2 on right? Look in where your paintballs go, past the cyclone feed. Look for a little thing moving open whenever you cock the gun. There's something in there (the bolt) and allows paintballs to go in, and when you pull the trigger after having it cocked, it gives the ball a tiny little boost out the barrel to help the ball get past the ball detent (a little rubber thing to prevent multiple balls from being loaded). It sounds like it would make sense to be the bolt since CO2 itself I'm not sure has the right force to get the ball over that ball detent. I'm not sure why the bolt would be missing or not working, but it sounds like it makes sense. Personally I'd say you should give it a shot, it's not too bad. I first started taking my Tippmann 98 apart near when I first started playing. Without taking it apart I don't think you can fully understand how it works. Once you understand how it works and what everything does, then you'll be able to fix stuff alot easier. So I'd say give it a shot, it's not like you'll risk "breaking" the entire gun. The worst thing that could happen is something not work right when you put it back in, so then you just dissasemble and try again.