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RomniJo 
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 Topic: Tippmann 98 Rental vs. CustomPosted: 24 August 2009 at 4:22am |
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I have been paintballing for two years now with a piece of crap view loader, so I am upgrading to a tippmann 98 platinum, and I have already bought a 14 inch smart parts linear barrel and a tiberius red dot sight and I want to know if a stock or hpa would be a good idea.
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broomy36
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Posted: 16 August 2009 at 8:57pm |
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Posted: 15 August 2009 at 6:36pm |
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Unless you have a trigger upgrade such as an E-grip or Response Trigger, there is no need for a cyclone hopper because with a single trigger and no way to shoot over 3-5 bps, you don't need a hopper thats allows 15 bps unless you plan to upgrade your trigger later on. If anything, just pick up a Viewloader Revolution. It will do most of what you need and is very affordable.
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oldpbnoob
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 11:49am |
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Depends on your setup. If you don't have any trigger upgrades, you would be fine with a gravity fed hopper.
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Posted: 14 August 2009 at 10:41am |
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could you tell me if a cyclone feeder would be neesary if i only played a cupple of times a year? also what type of tube carrer would you recomend?
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Posted: 13 August 2009 at 10:44pm |
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Posted: 13 August 2009 at 8:35pm |
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hey i was just wondering as it appers like the two guys on the first page have lots of experince unlike me who is going to get his first gun a tippmann 98 custom act marker, anyways i was going to get a longer barrel and i dont know which would be better a 16inch or a 14 inch they are both the same price, thats it get back as soon as you can, thanks
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Posted: 14 July 2009 at 8:23pm |
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Posted: 14 July 2009 at 4:15pm |
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Snipers are only fun if you increase the psi to about 600 and then its really only good for screwing around.
Flatlines only add distance not accuracy. They start to spiral in the air once they get so far. I have a 14" J&J Ceramic barrel. Its very accurate. |
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Posted: 07 July 2009 at 1:57am |
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I was just going to say that mack...either way man....u thought u were buying a custom 98 and instead u got somthing that looks exactly like a custom but just sys rental...if it was me...i would send it back just to be safe so incase there r any problem i can tell them exactly what gun i have.........
i think it would also be easier to find parts for it too...
anyways im new too and i also got a lot of help from......... paintballtechpb ............. (just type that in YOUTUBE)
also and a online store i used was actionvillage.com
they had my stuff shipped to me exactly the day they said it would :)
they pretty much have everything
also what kind of paintball r u planning on playing
woodsball???
U should really look at that guy on youtube he helped tremendously
also since u already have ur marker
look at the NEW PLAYER FORUM
and read
PAINTBALL 101 BASIC INFO
will anwer many of ur questions
ans sum u havnt even thought of :)
It helped me Edited by Spidey667 - 07 July 2009 at 2:00am |
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Posted: 07 July 2009 at 12:40am |
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 3:57pm |
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as fast as you can pull the trigger. if it was assembled correctly it should cycle it self properly, if you have to recock it after every shot, there is a problem.
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 3:48pm |
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Alright and when running of the co2 how fast will the gun shoot? And will the bolt be pulled back automatically everytime because of the co2? I would test it out bit I can't right now and am very eager to know. Thanks
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 3:34pm |
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HPA is not needed for cyclone use. CO2 will run the cyclone.
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 3:33pm |
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Ok thanks guys. However if mine for some reason is not a platinum edition will the cyclone feed not work/fit? And do you need HPA for the cyclone system to work? Since it runs of your hpa or whatever does that mean you will lose slot of co2 or hpa way faster than normal?
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 2:19pm |
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oldpbnoob:
meh the power tube was like $5 extra and well it had a bigger slot for the cyclone, stock, i like it, helps me to stabilize the marker, true about the cylcone, its just for me i shoot a heck of a lot faster with it than a normal grav fed (as i said idk about the engineering for the cylcone and wasnt too sure how it worked exactly), and if it increases feed rate would that mean that you have the potential to shoot faster since it is feeding at a fairly high rate? for me paint is paint is paint, you get what you pay for, i have shot scoarch, wild streak, draxxus, marbs, tac, shrapnel all out of the same marker, and it shot just fine, hpa/co2 well accurate for me, with the co2 half my shots went sidways and then i switched hpa and well they all at least went the same direction the same time not 100%straight but with a slight curve which is what i want. the hpa thing being quieter well ive only shot it out of my pro carb and well it was fairly quiet to me. and i didnt say anything about being ubersniper with hpa and a barrel, ive been doing this for 6 years and i know there is no such thing as sniping in paintball.
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oldpbnoob
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 2:00pm |
1. Technically, the cyclone feeds everytime you pull the trigger since it is powered by excess gasses from the valve. And it does not make your marker shoot faster, it increases the feed rate over a gravity hopper by force feeding the balls into the chamber following each shot.
2. I agree about not buying paint at Walmart, but I have found paint for around $35/case that is fine for rec play. Try different brands out and see what works for you. Paint to barrel match is the best thing for accuracy. Put a ball in the breech end of the barrel and see what it does. You want the paint to stick in the barrel, but roll out with a puff of breath. If it rolls through without pressure, it is too small, if you can't blow it through, it's too big. Most times when you go to a commercial field they are FPO only anyways, so you won't have that option as to what paint you can use. In these instances, a barrel kit is great to have, but again, for rec play, not necessary.
3. HPA does not shoot more accurately. It is however, more consistent than CO2. Liquid CO2 is reliant on external temperatures to expand into a gas. This expansion rate can vary depending on many factors such as temperature, rate of fire, use of an expansion valve etc. With such variance your FPS can fluctuate causing inconsistency of pressure between shots and thus inaccuracy. HPA is more consistent, which with a good barrel or barrel system can lead to better accuracy. However, don't be mislead into thinking that with HPA and a decent barrel that ou will be an ubersniper. Ain't gonna hapen. HPA is not quieter than CO2. This misconception may come from the fact that a lot of electro markers that require HPA operate at lower pressure, thus producing less sound. Other than that, I have no idea where you are pulling this one out of. Yes, a white cloud can come out of your barrel, but typically only under certain conditions. Usually when the marker is freezing up and shooting ice or when the outside temp is colder. It's not like smoke from a musket or anything.
In regards to the earlier post about upgrading the stock powertube. In a word..... DON'T. Stock Tippmann internals are perfectly fine. Internal upgrades rarely meet expectations and are IMO a waste of money. Spend the coin on playing time, or if you must send it to a good charity.
Personally, if you feel that you paid for a non-rental Tippmann, I would return it and get what you ordered. Perhaps that deal wasnt as good as it seemed.
Lastly, my biggest suggestion to the OP would be to....... GET OUT AND PLAY! Until you have played 3-4 times, don't even think about upgrading your marker. Depending on your experience and play history, why dump hundreds of dollars into a marker and gear until you have played and know what playing style you prefer as well as what sort of upgrades you NEED. Some of the best players I have played alongside, carried barebones 98's or pumps and dominated. Make sure you are invested before you invest.
Good luck. Edited by oldpbnoob - 06 July 2009 at 2:06pm |
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 1:50pm |
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^^^or use the HPA tank as a rifle stock.
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 1:42pm |
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well if you have the $, as fast as you can get to the store/buy it online. cyclone feed took like 3 min (if you have the platinum). just follow the instructions. umm where to buy, well dunhams, pro-shops, online (not at wal-mart) maybe outdoor shops idk where you live so idk what stores are nearby/carry in stock, online is the best, pro shops are just as good to get almost anything you want, and if they dont have that specific item they could probably get it with no problem. its real easy to upgrade, you just screw in the barrel, uscrew the left side of the maker place the stock/double trigger rescrew the left side, follow instructions with the cylcone, attach hpa, cock the marker and the cylcone and fire away. oh you sould prob. get a remote coil (its like $30) and get a good one, this allows you to carry the hpa tank away from the marker thus decreasing weight, i always us one. and do you have a pod belt?
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Posted: 06 July 2009 at 1:32pm |
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Alright thanks chun12 that is what i needed to know. Have any advice on where i should buy my cyclone feeder? or how long did it take you to upgrade your gun to have it? Is it really easy or hard? thanks for the help this forum is already awesome
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