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Tolon
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Topic: NewPosted: 07 February 2011 at 1:33am |
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Hey guys, I new to the paintball sport, and I see myself playing it for years to come.
I'm currently in the market for my first marker, a Tippmann 98. I'm ordering one online, and will soon have it. I plan to have it with this set-up: Response Trigger Remote Line for CO2 M4 Collapsible stock Laser sight I was reading around and watching videos that remote lines actually are high maintenance, is this true? And for the response trigger, I want to get a hopper that will work well with it, maximizing my balls persec. Any tips? |
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 9:59am |
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Wait until you are used to using Co2 before you go to a remote line... More stuff usually equals more issues. Remote lines are kind of tricky, when you buy one, make sure it has a quick disconnect, and switch to switch it off and leave the coil filled at the same time.
The nice thing about coils is they act as an expansion chamber. But, you shouldn't get one right off... Learn to play first.
And throwing paint with a response trigger is just that... I would wait until you get good shooting with a semi auto first. You will spend a lot less on paint, and it will enable you to play more as you won't be buying as much paint. Practice is the key to getting good on the field.
Laser sights are useless in paintball as the balls curve. So you can set it up to one distance and if you have a decent barrel, you can get it pretty good, but again... practice.
Stocks are just for looking cool. You really don't need it, as you can use your tank to rest against you when firing. Personally, I like mine as short as possible, so I use a remote line, but I would never get a stock as it just makes the gun too long and hard to manuver around.
If you are going to get anything to upgrade get a decent barrel first. I recommend the Apex 2, as that allows you to curve the ball or flatten it out based on the setting. Which gives you a huge advantage over players with traditional barrels who can't adjust the path of their shots.
The 98 custom is a nice first gun. Very reliable, and durable. And they hold their value as well.
My tips are based on woodsball, don't know what you are planning on playing?
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 1:46pm |
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I'll agree with FE about playing more than upgrading at first. You need two upgrades your first year.
1) An agitated or forcefeed hopper. This will keep the paint flowing without you having to miss fire and shake a few balls down the stack. New on the market right now (as a new player) I would get either a Tippmann SSL200, Spyder Fasta, or Invert Too Halo. VL Revolution Eye Forces are ok too. Do not get a VL Revolution Force, or VL Revolution CAT. These are "always on" hoppers that will drive you crazy with the amount of noise they make. Invert Reloader 2's are pretty good for the money as well. Put those in my list. Don't drop the money on a Prophecy or Rotor yet. 2) Barrel. Like FE said, a good barrel is important, mainly because Tippmann stock barrels might as well be .75" ID pvc pipe. Find a good .687 Lapco barrel, or one of the new Apex barrels (I need to get one of these.) It'll make a noticeable difference in shot consistency. Other than that, spend your money on paint, air, and entry fees. The more you get out and play, the better you'll preform regardless of the equipment you use. Oh, and what mask are you using? A decent mask can be the difference in a great day of play, and a fogged lens induced day of not so fun paintball. |
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 6:58pm |
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Welcome to the Forum.
The most important upgrades out the start are the following. - a good barrel. Lapco's and J&J are a good start. But dont get the apex until you played a season or two. Learn your basics and your gun first - a good mask with a thermal dual pane lens. And if where you live is real humid then get a mask that has a thermal lens and a fan. If you can't see you can't play A basic 4+1 ( 4 pods to carry paintballs and 1 vertical tank pouch) is a good option. I recomend the new Tippmann 4+1 because it uses a great adjustment and retention system to keep it snug to your torso and avoid the Pack bouncing around. Sneakers or boots with good ankle support. Stocks are good if you come from a real steel background or you want a more militaristic look and feel to your marker. Remotes are great since the remove bulky air tanks from your marker. All my markers always had stocks and in almost 20 years of paintball they have yet to be a factor in me being eliminated. |
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 7:49pm |
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Learn to shoot your marker with your non shooting hand. This will be very useful to you if you get bunkered (and you will).
Use every bit of available cover. The smallest scrub brush can be some excellent cover, the branches break the ball before it can reach you. Learn to low crawl. Try to plan your moves ahead maximizing the cover and fields of fire. Cover is no good to you if you can not shoot from behind it or see what your enemy is doing. Most of all, have fun. |
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Posted: 07 February 2011 at 11:16pm |
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I was thinking about an A5 instead, but after reading around a bit 98 seems better.
Since I originally wanted to convert the 98 to look like an M4/M16, I'm going to buy the Project Salvo. I'll stick to the G-Hopper for a while and see how it works for me, but a longer barrel is a must after reading around |
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 1:04pm |
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The barrels being longer is really just happenstance. The stock barrel isn't bad because its short, its bad because its got a huge internal bore. Longer barrels happen to be popular, so we get sold longer barrels. Personally I prefer 8"-10" barrels, but I'm in the minority.
Run the stock hopper for a day, but note every time you have to shake it because you just shot a "blank". Simple motorized hoppers are great things. http://www.actionvillage.com/020-134-0021 You might be able to find a better price somewhere else, but this is the goggle I recommend to newcomers to the sport. It's got a great lens in it and is a rigid mask that isn't too small. Most of the "in" masks right now are either tiny, or have soft parts that encourage bounces. The exact same lens (Spectra) is still being used in the most popular goggles today, the Flex/Proflex series. The 98 is less complicated since it doesn't have the cyclone. I would get it over an A-5 too. Edited by Dazed - 08 February 2011 at 1:05pm |
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 2:36pm |
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Yeah, I'll go with the Project Salvo, since it's just a nice looking 98.
I've been reading around for hoppers, and I've noticed that E Hoppers, in my opinion, look cheap and easily breakable. I don't know if E Hoppers are more for speedball, and I'm in for woodsball. |
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 2:56pm |
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Bad e-hoppers break a lot. I've got a 10+ year old revvy thats trucking along just fine. Invert Too's fixed the biggest problem with old halos, the brittle shell. Empire Reloader 2s are pretty good plastic, I haven't heard of any breaking.
I worry more about making sure I have a paintball chambered when I'm playing woodsball than speedball. On a speedball field, one more sound added to the insanity doesn't make much difference. In woodsball, if you shoot at someone (regardless of if anything comes out) typically, they'll notice. Better to have paint in the air than be stuck shaking your marker while the other guy draws a bead on you. Shoot, I even run an e hopper on my pump when I'm playing in a big game. Short of a fogged over mask, there is nothing so irritating as pulling the trigger, and having nothing come out. Reliability is one of the reasons we like Tippmanns, after all. All ah ehopper does is give you a reliable feeding solution. Oh, and like I said in my first post. I'm not talking about the whiz-bang $100+ hoppers. Just a nice agitated gravity feed that does the shaking for you. It's all you need on a Tippmann, but most people agree that its really nice to have if you play regularly. |
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 3:02pm |
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You may want to consider a Cyclone system as well. I don't feel they are too complicated and as a bonus, they operate off of excess blowback, so no need for batteries. You can also get a low profile X7 hopper for it to reduce the profile. Just an option. Absolutely agreed on investing in a good thermal lense mask. I have a pair of Proto Switches that I have added fans to and have never fogged with it unless the batteries died.
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 8:31am |
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I'm going to invest in the cyclone feed system first, then down the line when I get more into the sport, the E Grip.
A mask that doesn't fog is my biggest concern. When I played with rental equipment, the mask wouldn't stop fogging up. I had a blast, but couldnt see 6 feet in front of me. I dont want to spend toooo much on a mask, so any brand/model recommendations? |
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 9:42am |
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all masks will end up fogging over time, best to get a fan, so you can turn it on when needed.
I use a JT Flex 8 full helmet personally, mine is full camo and I love it. And yes, I have a fan on it. You can hear the buzz at times when I am playing on my video's on youtube.
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Posted: 29 April 2011 at 5:30am |
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I was thinking about an A5 instead, but after reading around a bit 98 seems better.
Since I originally wanted to convert the 98 to look like an M4/M16, I'm going to buy the Project Salvo. I'll stick to the G-Hopper for a while and see how it works for me, but a longer barrel is a must after reading around |
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