Firearm General Discussion Thread

My M&P .40 has fired somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 rounds without a malfunction of any kind.  It is also quite accurate for a handgun.  I recommend it.

tallen702 wrote: So, can anyone tell me why Browning Hi-Powers (including clones) are so damned expensive right now?

Skillet42565 wrote: tallen702 wrote: So, can anyone tell me why Browning Hi-Powers (including clones) are so damned expensive right now? The Browning name is on it, so its going to be expensive.  As far as clones, which ones are expensive?

Take your pick

Gatyr that 22 looks like a marlin

I think you are mistaking criminal law for civil law. As Kayback mentioned, lethal force is lethal force no matter what is used.
Some scum bag ambulance chaser might try to use the weapon type in a civil suit, but it has no bearing in criminal court (if it was legal).

One drawback of using a high dollar gun for self defense is letting it set in an evidence shelf at a police station for one or two years if you do have to use it. But then again, if that's the gun you can best defend yourself with use it. Your own safety is worth more anyway.


**oops that was supposed to be a reply to lightningbolt**

Edited by deadeye007 - 10 January 2012 at 1:13am

What's with the "No rapid fire - Think Safety" sign in the pic Gyter? What's their definition of rapid?

And how is it linked to safety?

KBK

No I mean have them on speed dial.

You know the "you get one phonecall" stuff? Quite honestly if you get to know a lawyer before you need to call him at 3am and explain why you blasted someone's brains over the wall it'll be better for you.

I have a bunch of lawyer friends who would be next to worthless. They are conveyencers, divorce lawyers and contract lawyers. Part of my getting home safely kit is the number of a very good defense lawyer who specializes in self defense shootings and other gun related laws. I know him quite well and have used his services with regards to licensing. Make sure the guy you are gonna trust your freedom to is someone you can work with.

KBK

tallen702 wrote: Skillet42565 wrote: FN built the original, its hardly a clone haha.  But those have been the going prices on HiPowers for a little while now... you gotta pay money for quality. Actually, there's a FEG clone in there that interests me. I may have to bid on it despite the wifey's ban on my purchases until we buy a house. My PA-63 from them has performed very well despite its tendency to make the webbing between your thumb and index finger go numb after 2 mags.

KBK.  The NRA hired a prosecuting attorneys office that specializes in these cases to lecture for a day.  This is where my info comes from.

It's their belief that the judge will view you as a professional killer if you have to modify your gun/ammo to kill someone.

Lightningbolt wrote: KBK.  The NRA hired a prosecuting attorneys office that specializes in these cases to lecture for a day.  This is where my info comes from. It's their belief that the judge will view you as a professional killer if you have to modify your gun/ammo to kill someone.

Judge won't care, but Jury will. That's the big sticking point. Prosecutors will try to paint you as some vigilante running around with a a weapon that is somehow "more dangerous/deadly" because you've modified it for competition. It's the whole "machine gun murder" bit that the media gets wrong all the time. Number of registered (read LEGAL) machine guns used in crimes since 1938? Two. And one of those was by a police officer using a department weapon to carry out a contract kill. But the gun-ignorant part of the public and media are always quick to refer to the need to ban automatic weapons and machine guns, or call a semi-auto a "machine gun" because it sounds dangerous.