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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Well, when parents can't take care of their children, the state steps in and takes the children away.  There are way too many fat kids for the state to handle, so they have to deal with bad parents in ways like this.  I see where they are coming from, but I think it would make more sense for them to ban the large drinks for kids, rather than everyone.  

It is not just kids they are targeting with this law, adults as well. 
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Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Well, when parents can't take care of their children, the state steps in and takes the children away.  There are way too many fat kids for the state to handle, so they have to deal with bad parents in ways like this.  I see where they are coming from, but I think it would make more sense for them to ban the large drinks for kids, rather than everyone.  


I'm going to go ahead and facepalm this.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote evillepaintball Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 June 2012 at 2:23pm
Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:

Originally posted by evillepaintball evillepaintball wrote:

Well, when parents can't take care of their children, the state steps in and takes the children away.  There are way too many fat kids for the state to handle, so they have to deal with bad parents in ways like this.  I see where they are coming from, but I think it would make more sense for them to ban the large drinks for kids, rather than everyone.  

It is not just kids they are targeting with this law, adults as well. 

Yeah roger.  I suppose I should elaborate.  I'm cool with them banning it for kids.  Adults is a bit too far.  
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The idiotic part of the whole thing is that the fat people will just order two instead of one... Moreover it won't stop the people who dine in to get refills.

 
It's VERY poorly thought out.
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Ok obesity is a problem almost anywhere in the developed world. Now the argument in the UK for these kind of ideas is that it costs our NHS billions to treat the huskier gentlemen.  I'm not sure how it works in the US but I would imagine that if the majority of healthcare is paid for privately, which is my baseless assumption. Then where does the state figure they have to stick their oar in?

I say this as a UK resident and we have been facing all this kind of thing for a while and it is always difficult to argue against it when the public money is being used for the healthcare system. Supersize meals at Mcdonalds are a thing of the past, and a deck of smokes has doubled in price in the last 5 years. Any promotional deals on alcohol are now banned in Scotland and they've just passed a bill for minimum pricing on alcohol to IIRC 50p/unit.

It's a bit weird because they only seem to attack the big chains, your local chippy will still deep fry anything they can get their hands on without any issues and other takeaways use the cheapest crap ingredients to make things that would still eventually kill you even if they used better/healthier ingredients but Mcdonalds and KFC still seem to have this awful stigma for being bad for you.
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This is what liberals do... They tell YOU how to live, while Bloomberg who is a big wine drinker, doesn't change the rules on HIMSELF and his wine... I bet he hasn't drank a pop in years. 

Even though his wine has the same amount of sugar. 



Did you hear that in NJ they are now going to give you a $1,000 ticket if your dog/cat isn't seatbelted in your car...

Freedom, 

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The thing is people have proved they aren't responsible enough to NOT do it.

Over 25% of the States would benefit from imposed eating laws. Over $150 Billion in heath care for fat asses would be saved.....

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I'd be fine with the government taking an active role in regulating the weight of its people. I'd get a tax break for all my working out.

This is ridiculously stupid though. It's like banning .38 specials in an attempt to stop crime.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



This is ridiculously stupid though. It's like banning .38 specials in an attempt to stop crime.


What in hell is wrong with you? Don't give them any ideas.
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



This is ridiculously stupid though. It's like banning .38 specials in an attempt to stop crime.


What in hell is wrong with you? Don't give them any ideas.

Megalomania Mike is a member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.   And has been rumored to send people to pull a straw purchase in other states to "show how easy it is to get guns".
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I might be ok with a "luxury tax" for sugared drinks over 20 oz. However, it would have to be tightly controlled and non-sweetened teas and diet sodas would have to be exempt.
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



This is ridiculously stupid though. It's like banning .38 specials in an attempt to stop crime.


What in hell is wrong with you? Don't give them any ideas.


In Canada they prohibited .22 handguns.

Actually. They pretty much banned everything.


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Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:



This is ridiculously stupid though. It's like banning .38 specials in an attempt to stop crime.


What in hell is wrong with you? Don't give them any ideas.


In Canada they prohibited .22 handguns.

Actually. They pretty much banned everything.

Hey!  I did not see Bushmaster, RRA or Olympis arms!  There is still hope for you!
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Don't like the laws, vote.

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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

The thing is people have proved they aren't responsible enough to NOT do it.

Over 25% of the States would benefit from imposed eating laws. Over $150 Billion in heath care for fat asses would be saved.....

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That is not a good answer for a 140 BILLION Dollar problem. And it is a crappy example. In your " free country" there are plenty of things you cant do that the goverment controls for your benifit. Pretty much any law actually.........

Enforced guidelines arw already in place for other food additives. I dont see a problem with this. I do agree it is a little silly, but next you'll be arguing agsinst laws prohibiting asbestos.
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Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

That is not a good answer for a 140 BILLION Dollar problem. And it is a crappy example. In your " free country" there are plenty of things you cant do that the goverment controls for your benifit. Pretty much any law actually.........

Enforced guidelines arw already in place for other food additives. I dont see a problem with this. I do agree it is a little silly, but next you'll be arguing agsinst laws prohibiting asbestos.
I'm not trying to argue semantics and specific legislation, I'm hardly a lawyer. My statement was more so based on principle. How free do you really consider your country to be if you are legally banned from buying a large soda?

If we have proven ourselves incapable of choosing our own diets, we are hardly capable of choosing our government representatives.


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Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:


Hey!  I did not see Bushmaster, RRA or Olympis arms!  There is still hope for you!


Hah! Nice! Now all I need a restricted license on top of a PAL plus 3 grand and I'm all set!

Too bad its only legal with a 5 round mag.
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What about bans on soda in public schools? 
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

Then where does the state figure they have to stick their oar in?

We have government-sanctioned healthcare for the poor, those with disabilities, and the elderly. Interestingly enough, there is a correlation between both obesity and obesity related illnesses and socio-economic status. 

Note, my opinion on the NYC drink size limit is still not really settled one way or another. 
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