Justice for Jim Holmes

Is that a rhetorical question?

Lets throw the christians in with the lions while we're at it. And maybe get some mobs. And torches.

Seen some of the more fun prisons lately? 'Gladiator Days' with shanks and garbage can lids. The inmates do run the asylum in many cases.

All I see is this 'kid' who had no sense of consequence based on his lifestyle, playing 'The Joker' in his mind and only now gets the have a 'pity party' by the usual suspects because someone else drove him to do this.

Our justice system is failing miserabley, and it is not the gun, it is the spoiled brat idiot holding the gun(s) in this case. Watch how this all plays out, poor, poor kid, he does not deserve this, etc, as the victims are forgotten in the quest for 'justice'.

The guy's life IS over. Beating him with sticks isn't going to make anyone actually feel any better, it's just going to make us look like barbarians.

oldsoldier wrote: Hey Strat...does that "innocent until proven guilty' thing go for Zimmerman also, not according to the usual media frenzie.

Fortunately, the media isn't part of the judicial branch of government.

OS- you're forgetting about that whole awkward 'constitution' thing you swore to uphold and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Quite to the contrary of your views, the ugliest, most awful cases are the ones where it's MOST critical to get everything right, dot every i, cross ever t. Because that's how a free liberal democracy functions, and that's how it protects itself from the tyranny of expediency when extremist appeals to emotion seem most compelling.

Just a simple thought that you have after you see a part of society try and 'justify' the actions of one individual who truely commits an act of violence towards his fellow man, and then the legal games begin to find any cause but the true nature of the crime.
Constitutionally he has the right of fair trial, that is given, but does he truely get judged by a jury of his peers? Because normal members of a jury can not fashion or concieve a thought as he did to commit these acts. It was not a spontainious act, it was a well planned out exercise in violence directed toward innocent members of our society. As stated the 'victims' of this exercise in violence will soon be forgotten and not the prime focus of the 'trial', it will be how our society failed Mr. Holmes. That is how our system of justice has mutated into a form unrecognizable to what the Penal Law was devised to accomplish. Our system will now spend near $1million to protect his rights and he spent $.49 to violate each of his victimes rights, and 12 can no longer defend themselves in a court of law, nor see justice prevail.

There are just times where civilized man needs to thin the herd, and having worked law enforcement, my inner most being would see no problem having him tried by a real jury of his peers, on the prison yard, where he can defend his actions to those who, as he, have no problem violating the rights of others.

Not that I am advocating it is right, but I think we all know what the outcome of this potential media driven 'trial' is going to be. Not guilty due to mental illness, and we will coddle this man in some mental institution, be it for life, while the victims families also live in some form of 'prison' within thier minds, always asking why.
Closure sometimes mends more than what society tends to call justice.

If one of my kids were killed or injured in this scenario, a hilltop, a .418, and Mr. Holmes in the rec yard....nough said.

I'm still of the opinion he needs a closed court room, and an unmarked grave. Stop giving these guys "their day in the media", because whatever they say in court does not need to be reported.

Concentrate of the dead and wounded so the event is not forgotten, but don't mention this guys name, his political agenda or his "justifications".

If there was more of that, there'd be less of this.

KBK

The thing about insanity is you actually have to be INSANE.

Not mad or off your rocker but actually criminally insane. Very few people like that are able to function well enough in society to not be locked up in a loony bin already.

KBK

Kayback wrote: I'm still of the opinion he needs a closed court room, and an unmarked grave. Stop giving these guys "their day in the media", because whatever they say in court does not need to be reported. Concentrate of the dead and wounded so the event is not forgotten, but don't mention this guys name, his political agenda or his "justifications". If there was more of that, there'd be less of this. KBK