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I guess Forbes is part of the librul meedyuh

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    Posted: 05 September 2012 at 7:49pm
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So this article is saying. Whether Democrat, or Republican. We have never had a fiscal conservative in office? Say it isn't so.
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Not that he may not be right, but... 

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SOMEONE will overlook this point:

Originally posted by Article Article wrote:

No doubt, many will wish to give the credit to the efforts of the GOP controlled House of Representatives. That’s fine if that’s what works for you.

However, you don’t get to have it both ways.

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Let's try this again-this article isn't surprising to me. I find that the differences between Dems and 'Publicans is less who spends the most and more who spends what where. Both parties are traditionally big spenders. Democrats and Republicans = two sides to the same coin whereas libertarian philosophy = a completely different coin altogether.
 
It's the libertarian philosophy that has influenced the tea party movement and it's from their viewpoint that Obama is painted as a big spending communist. To be truly fair they'd paint Romney in the same light but they need the Republicans to remain in power so that their parasitic take over can have some form of reaching effect.


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You sound like Jeff Daniels in Newsroom with your disdain for the tea party.
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A lot of conservatives/tea partiers/libertarians expressed disdain towards Romney, myself included. However, what do you want them to do when there is no viable alternative? Seems like a cheap shot at a decent chunk of the political right, no matter whether you agree with them or not.
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Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

A lot of conservatives/tea partiers/libertarians expressed disdain towards Romney, myself included. However, what do you want them to do when there is no viable alternative? Seems like a cheap shot at a decent chunk of the political right, no matter whether you agree with them or not.


It's not a shot at all, it's an observation.

I also don't have any disdain for the tea party-but they don't belong in the Republican party. That's not a positive or negative statement, but again, an observation.

As far as Romney, I can fully understand why conservatives wouldn't support him. My point is that the criticisms being leveled at Obama can be equally applied to Romney and that many of them are actually working to self incriminate the right.

The tea party is a huge problem for moderate Republicans. It's not that I feel any negativity or dislike for them it's that I feel like they're attempting to change the party from the inside. Look at Ron Paul as an example-he's not a tea partner but his policies are alien to the Republican platform. It would make more sense for Obama to run as a Republican than Ron Paul. But rather than acknowledge the minority nature of his platform his followers choose to undermine the integrity of the Republican party that they're running under.

This inward fighting has really torn apart the stability for the right. Their key players are arguing amongst themselves and then attempting to sell a candidate they despise to others.
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Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

A lot of conservatives/tea partiers/libertarians expressed disdain towards Romney, myself included. However, what do you want them to do when there is no viable alternative? Seems like a cheap shot at a decent chunk of the political right, no matter whether you agree with them or not.


It's not a shot at all, it's an observation.

I also don't have any disdain for the tea party-but they don't belong in the Republican party. That's not a positive or negative statement, but again, an observation.

As far as Romney, I can fully understand why conservatives wouldn't support him. My point is that the criticisms being leveled at Obama can be equally applied to Romney and that many of them are actually working to self incriminate the right.

The tea party is a huge problem for moderate Republicans. It's not that I feel any negativity or dislike for them it's that I feel like they're attempting to change the party from the inside. Look at Ron Paul as an example-he's not a tea partner but his policies are alien to the Republican platform. It would make more sense for Obama to run as a Republican than Ron Paul. But rather than acknowledge the minority nature of his platform his followers choose to undermine the integrity of the Republican party that they're running under.

This inward fighting has really torn apart the stability for the right. Their key players are arguing amongst themselves and then attempting to sell a candidate they despise to others.


In the sense that the end goals to win, I agree.

I don't, however, agree that SHOULD be the end game. If it takes a tear down from the inside of the republican party to make a conservative platform a viable option in the two party system, then I'm all for it.

I've said in the past that I'm not positive 4 more years of Obama and then a shot at a more conservative candidate isn't in the better interest of our country than 8 years of a RINO like Romney.
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